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Thanks for the update!

Ok also about the intentional part, and best regards to the developer- I live in WHs and now being able to see my ship when it's cloaked helps a ton, and nice transition makes it all better.

Thank you for this last patch for nvidia cards set to "high" shader settings. The former effect looked flat from all directions, much like the pixelisation effect which is used on TV to hide the face of criminals. It looks much better now.

This effect nearly cost me my Nemesis, which admittedly was completely my fault, I was so busy going all weak at the knees at the new cloaking effect, I didn't notice the two hostile Vexors that had closed to spitting distance....its was close, way too close lol. But the effect is awesome.

Reposting to get answer...or should i just ask this in the form of a question thats been answered 10 times already, as those are the ones dev's seem to respond to most...

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I discovered today something that might be cause for concern for cloaky users...

you are 100% visible (but no longer target-able) until the animation is 100% finished (6-7 seconds). That is an eternity of showing the enemy exactly what ship you are in and where you are headed. I bet all those null/WH camps are having a field day with all the cov-ops coming through their bubbles....since you now have atleast 6 seconds to see what direction they are moving ect...so you can get on top of them much much easier.

Is this intended? Because i don't remember the old cloak taking 7 seconds to render you no longer visible to enemies.

Edit: Sorry, took me a couple of readings to get your intent with this. Probably the reason questions asked and answered get developer attention is that questions with answers are easiest to answer. :)

Please keep in mind that each EVE dev who posts on the forums participates in a different subset of the development process, so, for example, I see all kinds of questions that might be great to answer but I just don't know, may or may not even know whom to ask, and thus don't speak up.

Keep in mind too that, except for certain members of the community team, it's not our primary job responsibility to read or post on the forums.



I spoke with CCP Antiquarian, who's handling QA for the cloaking effect, and he wasn't sure off the top of his head what the gameplay intent is here. I created a bug report, and he'll run it past the right people.

And if your office is anywhere near a normal office there'll be several questions that you'd _like_ to have opinions about, but it's considered rude to stomp on college's feet in their areas of work.

Let's say I'm a production manager, and our beloved sales manager says something stupid in public (will never happen of course).

I'm not going to issue a public statement reversing my fellow manager stupidity.

I'm more likely to buy the person a question in beer or two, then hand over my objection in person.

Bad for public scrutiny, but needed for running a company.

Then explain why, as a whole, is the forum touted as the primary means to give feedback on nearly every expansion/change? Nearly every dev blog links to the forums to give feedback...yet you say only a handful of people are responsible for to check for such feedback? That makes no sense. It would make sense if those dev's involved in a particular feature (or atleast one dev from that team) should be reading the official DEV STARTED thread about said feature...or am i completely wrong?

I've noticed this too. It seemed to be range related. If you are zoomed out, you get steps. Zoomed in, it's smooth.

the time of visibility to time if invisibility has doubled with the new animation .

As a leader of some of the largest most complex commercial software on earth, the immense feedback you get to developers in these dev post linked threads is like gold.

I certainly wouldn't pay an engineer to forum browse all day, but I would require them to read every single post in their own threads. Developing software requires the feedback you're getting for free - I have to pay immense amounts to get what teams are filtering out.

For example, CCP grayscale recently stopped reading his long range thread after two days of feedback. Nearly two times as many posts have been made since he left the building. In that time a lot of redundant tears were shed, but also thoughts were refined and very smart people who didn't immediately knee jerk into the forum came to share their cogent thoughts - to deaf ears. Why CCP would scorn such treasure is beyond me.

Astounding what the embarrassment of riches can lead to.