Market Discussions

Hello friends,
Today I have become privvy to a major market manipulation taking place in Oxygen Isotope and Hydrogen Isotope markets
There is some large entity with massive amounts of materials who keeps manipulating prices downwards.

I have poured several dozen billion ISK into trying to stop them in the past 24 hours but they simply have too many mats; mad men I tells ya! Thankfully I was able to sell off with minimal losses, but still... these prices are falling by the day and there aint nothing a lowly player like myself can do

So I call on you, the procurers of blue ices and glacial masses, and the logistics squads responsible for selling it, to stop doing it. Just STOP SELLING when you see the price drop by more than 0.01 ISK. Sure 0.5 ISK doesn't seem like it matters at ~850 ISK a pop, until they do it 4x a day, 7 days a week. Then you're suddenly losing 14 ISK a week. If holding off on selling doesn't work for you, turn your topes into fuel blocks! The fuel block market, while I'm sure it has problems of it's own, more accurately represents the value of the mats that make it up.

TLDR is stop feeding the market manipulators by matching their orders. Hold onto your mats or turn them into fuel blocks instead.
Or hell if you're rich enough, keep buying them out. It's worked for me in other markets, I just don't got the capital for this one. If you do, have at it hoss!

Note that they have infected all markets, it was just Jita and Hek for the longest time until they realized half the suppliers moved shop elsewhere. I can confirm it is the SAME PEOPLE doing it in all the markets, if you are unsure yourself go some small amounts of mats when you see it happening and you'll see the names are the same.

Oh it's this thread again.

This again? If I weren't on the toilet I'd cross check the authors of each and link the last thread about this.

"Stop bullying Oxygen/Hydrogen Isotopes"

oh sorry, that was me

i'll stop now, thanks for posting this thread to tell me how much i was annoying you

Isotope price drop -> ice price drop -> cheaper fuel for cap & POS -> profit.

what else ? =]

I don't think this is news to anyone. This has been going on for some time. Sometimes they manipulate prices down and other times up again.

Down is better.

T-

Not sure why the OP is referencing Oxygen isotopes? They are the only tope market not being manipulated right now.

It would seem the holders of towers got fed up of paying high prices for their fuel and have entered a gruesome campaign to bring the prices down. The manipulation of prices is quite clear, as the reduction in order values do not represent that of simple deflation. Unfortunately the game has very little in design to counter this.

Do consider who has an interest in keeping prices down. It's the largest groups with the largest amount of towers. No thread is going to change that, and you'd have to be worth hundreds of billions of ISK to take a shot at reversing the trends yourself.

The best chance at seeing a reversal here are game changes that reduce the viability of shipping materials from high-sec to null-sec. If it were more viable for them to mine out their own resources, they wouldn't have such ample reason to push prices downwards.

blabla blabla .... a lot of babbling for nothing ..

Everything is manipulation in the business in particular with the finance and the stock exchange, the information does not escape the rule



Nota : this reply too

lol, it was most likely just someone cashing out, not manipulation.