Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Good point.

Flipping a few current sov systems to NPC to provide a "pipe" into those regions seems a relatively minor change that could address the problem.

...smart players collectively out thinking the smart devs...who authorized you to make sense?

Maybe they want your reach to exceed it's possible grasp.

Stop trying to figure out how you'll do yesterday tomorrow. Your group will be better positioned to weather any changes that may come about.

Stop your crying. The end result will be a more localized (better) game.

One stupid patch too many, i have just unsubed all 7 of my accounts, and you can say good bye to my plex cash also.

What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that the nullsec leaders may be interested in finding ways to win, but it's not because they don't respect the concept of fairness. As players they want to win, and as leaders of large groups of players their responsibility is to help them achieve strategic victories, but they also want the game that they're winning to be worth winning - for competition to have stakes, for their victory to have significance. That's why The Mittani and the other nullsec leaders are willing to put the strategic power of their own alliances at risk by proposing changes to the game. Though there is always the grr goons crowd, who perhaps through irrational paranoid delusions imagine that all suggestions and comments made by anyone associated with Goons are inherently gloating and deceptive, and also somehow tears over their impending doom, please understand that there are two aspects to nullsec powers' interests - both in-game and competitive, and out-of-game and at least attempting to understand the balance of the game itself.

The recent changes made and proposed seem to be addressing problems that weren't widely discussed or not previously acknowledged by CCP as bugs or problems at all, and then solving them with a hammer. Jumping supers in range of other supers inside POS shields was not declared an exploit and reimbursements were not made, but suddenly every nullsec corp in the game now has to change nearly all of their hundreds of corporation bookmarks because all POSes have been moved an arbitrary distance because jumping supers in next to POS shields is suddenly considered that big a problem.

Now we have changes that make routine jump freighter routes impossible to complete as they have been for years, and carriers essentially no longer have jump drives that reach more than a few systems away. Every time anything happens to impact the null blocs we hear cheers from those who have minimal experience with yet no shortage of animosity towards Goons and their allies, and this is a problem simply because not every change hurts us, yet might be detrimental to the game itself, so any productive narrative about the game involving the people who play it becomes fundamentally compromised. Our ability to communicate with each other as people who play the same game is threatened because of grudges and biases held even when there's nothing personal at stake.

Let me tell you why I think these changes are flawed. Disincentivizing our hurling around capital ships on a moment's notice is a fine idea, but to this extent is just bizarre. Restricting travel of capital ships will only magnify home-turf advantage, by benefiting those who have more capital pilots, effectively benefiting groups of players who can work around a single pilot's fatigue timers. (Nullsec logistics teams already exchange jump freighters across characters in order to complete orders. They even move goods between ships to minimize risk in high-traffic systems.) It will also compromise the ability of smaller groups to manage logistics, further giving advantage to large, well-organized alliances and coalitions like the Goons.

I know a lot of people who haven't lived in nullsec have a magnified vision of blobs and capital fights, but nullsec groups actually tend to be quite careful about flinging around large, expensive ships, since they effectively have a huge target on their backs, as they risk escalations when victory may not be assured and act as a beacon for third-parties to intervene and tip the balance of a fight for the sake of a few expensive kills. Compromising the ability of capital ships to travel large distances will certainly discourage escalations since it will simply take too long and be entirely too risky to move them around for those long periods of time, not to mention that spies will give their enemies plenty of warning when they are deployed. But is this what we want? To never experience the risk of another large fight again?

I totaly agree with you - plus it we can do then less in our time in the game so even more boring...
CCP should rethink this.

Do you actually think pinging for dozens of players to log in and jump to cynos across half the galaxy requires no time, effort or planning? Have you ever tried it?

Dras, your tears only show how bad an effect it is to become a risk averse null bear like you are.

Every FW noob in a frig has to think of more factors that you noobs do.

That is why your kind gets butcherd every time you come to low sec - sad but true.

You guys simply do not get it that playing a game is about playing a game.

RIP

Using php scripts for a game and not human interaction is to not understand a game - and I am able to use a telephone.


Your kind is a cancer that has to be purged - simple as it is.

Cancer destroys everything it touches.

There is only one cure to cancer.


Before I meet goons I fought that the minmatar mili guys where really bad at playing EVE - beeing risk averse carebears.

Would you like to donate some moros'sesess to me so they can take part in my new project?

@Dan You seem to overlook one very tiny but very important detail in your long arguments list:

Eve is player driven - if its not driven anymore its CCPs job to make it move again. As CCP can only 'expect' what might happen due to players are the driving force its their good right and actually their job to turn around when things dont play out as they thought they would. They have done that many many times since Eve exists and in the end it was always the same result: The players moved again or into a new direction.