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Out of Retirement.

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3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-04 05:04:38 UTC

Hmnn been a long time since my retirement from Reawakened Technologies and the EM under the command of good Ol’Big Sister Evanda Char, so much has changed after these years away well not everything P.I.E. is still drolling on as they all ways do in a tiresome way.
Wonder whose keeping them in check these days?

Actually I wonder how everyone I once knew are doing?
It's been so long since taking my leave to find a lost love, heh never did find her in the end, doubt any one even remembers who I am which is fine as it means I can start with a brand new clean slate might even try my hand at being a miner this time.
You know the simple life none of the high pace slaver pod popping action from the old days just me my ship and couple of mining lasers and a few drones to wind the time away witling away at space rocks.
Have to say though the time away has afforded me a lot of insight on things and allowed me to open my eyes a fair bit to, so many corporations and alliances claiming to be just and righteous…what baloney, it not so much about doing the right thing but about power, Isk and prestige and nought more.

Even with out all that I came to the conclusion that what we all consider to be right and wrong is only a mere point of view, just like good and evil, it simply depends on what side your on as to what is considered to be this or that.
Better off listening to your heart and actually stopping to think and question what all these groups are saying as to whether or not you as an individual want to place any merit upon it, I mean if you spend your whole life blindly following what others dictate then your are never truly free…..hell your little more than a slave yourself just without the chains and collar.
I remember one nut ball by the name of Darth Sage, don’t know what happened to him or if he’s still out there but in spite of his rather gruesome and by my own personal opinion having a most unwholesome hobby of turning slaves in to pies he at least was free and did what he wanted regardless of how he was treated and denounced by people.
Got to respect that if nothing else about that sick twisted individual.

Anyway I’m Batch Number; 3113 but you can call me Elle, stay safe out there people and see you in the space lanes!


Louella Dougans
Sovereign Hospitaller Order of Saint Katherine
#2 - 2014-10-04 06:43:59 UTC
I remember you.

You wiggled a lot.

Don't remember anyone called Darth Sage offhand, but there's other nutballs that have come along.

Be a Space Nun, it is fun. \o/

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#3 - 2014-10-04 07:23:02 UTC
I also remember you.

Welcome back into the fray.

-Eran
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2014-10-04 07:57:11 UTC
Yes, I remember you.


3ll3 wrote:


Even with out all that I came to the conclusion that what we all consider to be right and wrong is only a mere point of view, just like good and evil, it simply depends on what side your on as to what is considered to be this or that



Good and evil are not relative. They are absolutes.

You made a mistake before by siding with the forces of evil. I hope for your sake that you do not make the same mistake again.


Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#5 - 2014-10-04 08:01:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Jandice Ymladris
Welcome back into the fray, if you like an update on what occurred the past year, you can consult the Aurora News publications. There's also articles in it highlighting a few older events that might be neat to catch up on. Far from a comprehensive list, but it 'll help bringing you up to speed to Eden's most recent events.


All in all, I welcome you back in capsuleer life! While I don't know you, it's still good to see capsuleers returning.

Also, no shortage on nutballs, as the front page of IGS shows. Albeit we've got a surge of nutcases lately, making me wonder if there's something in the pod goo....

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Anslo
Scope Works
#6 - 2014-10-04 13:25:23 UTC
Aaaaaaw ****.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-10-04 18:35:59 UTC
Ms Ymladris thank you I shall endeavour to have good read of the Aurora News since it’s been all most three years now since I have been gone and I rather fear I am heavily out of date with galactic affairs.
To every one else who remembers me or doesn't but has been so generous and kind as to greet me I Thank You all for your kind and warm welcome back to where I belong.

Once I've finished installing new software for my pod as per concord requirements to bring it up to date, probably why I have audio only and no visual functions on my Comm's.
Then I got to fumigate the ships for any Space Rats and Astro'Rroaches I swear some of those little buggers can grow to the size of a cat, last thing I need is for my crew to end up victims to any of them leaving me having to jettison my pod to keep from becoming lunch as well.
Talking of crews I need to hire on a new one...man how tiresome oh well!...and yes I am wiggling right now after all a good wiggle will all ways bring a smile to your face and a cheer to your heart.

Oh and Mr Blake sir, I have to ask you say good and Evil are absolute and that the EM where Evil yet they in their heart of hearts believed P.I.E. was of an equal evil, I know you may counter with some fancy speech of how they were misguided and how Amarr has divine right to enslave and bring all Minmatar into the fold so they might learn the light of this or that but please remember this is but the view point of your own culture and religious beliefs to them the exact opposite is true.
So it would make logical sense to say that both Amarr and Minmatar are both Right and both worn , both good and both evil depending upon just one simple ting...what side of the line your standing, or am I completely wrong in conclusion?

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-04 19:54:15 UTC
Speaking about good and evil, I believe there is quite easy explanation: evil is when people do things for themselves, and good, when people do things for other peoples.
For example, gallentean individualism - is evil. Collectivism - is good.
Hedonism - is evil. Fighting and working for your State is good.
Freedom - is evil. Duty and loyalty are good.
As we have it written on our badges: "All for the Good of Many".

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-10-04 21:07:00 UTC
which Ms Kim I see fall's back into the realm of points of view for while you may well state:

Gallentean individualism - is evil. Collectivism - is good.
Hedonism - is evil. Fighting and working for your State is good.
Freedom - is evil. Duty and loyalty are good.


It could be just as easily be thought and said that:

Caldari Collectivism - is evil. individualism - is good.
Fighting and working for your State - is evil. Hedonism is good.
Loss of Freewill - is evil., Loyalty and Duty are good.


It all depends on which view point your looking at things really Good and Evil are just in my own personal opinion concepts of a Social Norm that we are brought up with for a some one who knows no other way than that of the Caldari state freedom and free will that those in Gallente Federation enjoy and squander so frivolously is strange and uncompromisable going against every thing they may well believe in and so instinctive rebel at such a notion and deem it evil.
But please try to bare in mind the reverse is true also, the lack of free will and freedom for those who know only the way of the Gallente Federation is abhorrent and and vile, it goes against every thing they believe in and so will rebel at teh notion deeming it as inhuman and evil.

Now you have these two mind states and differing Social Norms trying to shout down each other as being evil and your going to get Conflict with both sides claiming to be Just and True while the other has to be completely evil, so wouldn't you say that this boils down to just a differing point of view?
That and perhaps the people in power wanting more and more power so stir the pot to make war and hate so they can try to grab more and more power for themselves?




Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#10 - 2014-10-04 23:06:15 UTC
3ll3 wrote:

Then I got to fumigate the ships for any Space Rats and Astro'Rroaches I swear some of those little buggers can grow to the size of a cat, last thing I need is for my crew to end up victims to any of them leaving me having to jettison my pod to keep from becoming lunch as well.


I like to add an additional vermin species to your list. Ever since your absence, Fedo's have become a real nuisance, infecting cargoholds of spaceships across the cluster for over a year now. Reason for their sudden rise in being a pest aboard starships is not entirely clear.
As they are notoriously hard to kill, I advise you to alter pest control methods to include these infestations. Failing to eliminate them, capturing them & bringing them to your nearest Fedo containment center is your next best approach. Due to a growing demand to keep these pests as pets, Fedo containment centers will assure the turned over Fedo's are prepared to be acceptable as pets for those who like to keep a few.
More info on Fedo's can be found here: The fedo, a strange animal

On a closure note, thank you for the kind words & I wish you the best in re-integration into the cluster, alot has occurred the past 3 years.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-04 23:22:40 UTC
Ms. Elle,

I have supplied an examples of defined point of view: "Working for yourself is evil, working for others is good."
Yet, I see no common idea behind your examples, other than "opposite to your examples".

I understand, that a negation can be idea as well, and, for some peoples, even dogma to follow. But, thinking about that, don't you think, that providing always reverse opinion without holding other idea behind, would mean just going against peoples for the sake of doing it. Wouldn't it qualify as an evil act as well?

Speaking that the reverse would true would signify idea that "Working for yourself is good, while working for others is evil". Yet it isn't in complete accordance with your examples, but it is what you would get if you reverse my initial idea, that I provided examples for.
From local point of view - doing things for yourself you indeed do good... well, for yourself. And dedicating your life to others, you do evil thing to your own person. But from everyone else's point of view you will be evil, if you will be doing good only for yourself. Your good side will be just for one person, that will be you.

In the end, yes, I would agree with you, that it boils down to point of view, but amount of peoples, sharing such point of view, will differ quite significantly.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-10-05 00:47:24 UTC
Ms Kim I am glad you see what I was aiming to say about how it all boils down to differing point's of view.
As for for the amounts of people who may or may not agree with my point of view it really doesn't matter how many people share a point of view or not, if they wish to view me as evil then fine all the power to them, if they wish to see me as good then hey this is also golden.

All that matters to me is that I remain true to my self and not be influenced by how any one tries to dictate how I should live or how I should think, what I should eat or drink even dictate what I should think is fashionable and cool and what is not.
Don't get me wrong I understand the different Social Norm's put into play by the governments of the galaxy are mostly to keep order and peace but in some cases I also see them being used as ways to influence and have control over people and for what?
Nought more than greed and power while disguising it behind the name of the Greater Good or Religion.
Hell even the Gallente Federation the so called voice of freedom is just as guilty of this, under all the guise of free speech and expression there is repression and the gagging of voices to keep order and prevent total chaos.

So in a nutshell as long as I live my life as I feel in my own heart to be right, now it may be wrong by other peoples standards and views but it matters little what others think of me as long as I am true to myself and don't try to force my values and principles down some one else throat then it's all good.
But as I said before that's just my own Point of view if you like it fine if you don't that's also fine.

OH and Ms Ymladris thank you for the warning about the Fedo's, I will definitely take your advice to heart.









Kucial Ghavera
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-10-05 04:00:06 UTC
Welcome back.
Zenariae
#14 - 2014-10-05 11:31:58 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:


I like to add an additional vermin species to your list. Ever since your absence, Fedo's have become a real nuisance, infecting cargoholds of spaceships across the cluster for over a year now. Reason for their sudden rise in being a pest aboard starships is not entirely clear.
As they are notoriously hard to kill, I advise you to alter pest control methods to include these infestations. Failing to eliminate them, capturing them & bringing them to your nearest Fedo containment center is your next best approach. Due to a growing demand to keep these pests as pets, Fedo containment centers will assure the turned over Fedo's are prepared to be acceptable as pets for those who like to keep a few.
More info on Fedo's can be found here: The fedo, a strange animal



Ms Jandice,

As a Fedo pet owner I can assure you that they are not vermin or a nuisance nor are they pests but very cute misunderstood creatures that um respond well to socialisation with their humans and are very loyal and affectionate and breeding does become a problem if owners are irresponsible and neglect to have their pets neutered but generally there is no reason to have them sequestered as the life cycle of the Fedo is only very short um a few weeks (my little Fedo died last week after just a month and I was most unhappy) so I guess that part doesn’t really matter so much as long as they are being looked after and found appreciative homes.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#15 - 2014-10-05 13:34:03 UTC
Zenariae wrote:

Ms Jandice,

As a Fedo pet owner I can assure you that they are not vermin or a nuisance nor are they pests but very cute misunderstood creatures that um respond well to socialisation with their humans and are very loyal and affectionate and breeding does become a problem if owners are irresponsible and neglect to have their pets neutered but generally there is no reason to have them sequestered as the life cycle of the Fedo is only very short um a few weeks (my little Fedo died last week after just a month and I was most unhappy) so I guess that part doesn’t really matter so much as long as they are being looked after and found appreciative homes.


As you should have noticed in my response, I expressed that they are both, pests & pets and due to their characteristics they are best kept by those with experience, else the pets will turn into pests due to their nature & lifecycle characteristics.
In this they occupy the same niche as rats, who can be kept as pets, but when faced with unresponsible owners, or just left in the wild turn into pests that must be cleansed from a ship.

In short, they can be kept as pets, and they can be a great boon, due to their affectionate nature, as you stated. However, keeping them as pets is best kept to experienced pet Fedo owners like you, who are not as common as one would like.

Providing a new home for refugees in the Aurora Arcology

Zenariae
#16 - 2014-10-05 20:38:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Zenariae
Jandice Ymladris wrote:


However, keeping them as pets is best kept to experienced pet Fedo owners like you, who are not as common as one would like.


Ms Jandice

You may wish to get in touch with the band members of Starved Fedo to get some popular support for the relocation of the animals.

EDIT: To the Op um sorry I didn't mean to interrupt your thread I don't know you but hello.
Esna Pitoojee
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2014-10-05 23:00:20 UTC
Darth Sage... now there's a name I've not heard in a long, long time.

And was better off not hearing, honestly.

Anyhow, it's odd to see such an old pilot name back again. Any particular plans now, 3II3?
3ll3
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-10-05 23:52:08 UTC
Okay testing testing One..Two...Three....Okay Audio is still functioning, and I now have visual to on my comm's.
Took me longer than expected to clear out the Astor-Roaches and Space Rats, the Fedo's while not entirely pleasant to look upon where pretty much affectionate little blighters so I decided to spare them and take them to the local Fedo Containment Center.

Well Mr Pitoojee, I have to say first things first I need to build up my Isk once more so it'll mean a spot of mining for me I think just to get my self back on my feet after that I'm not yet sure, I might try to make a few new contacts amongst some agents but defiantly raise my Security Status back to some thing a little more decent, guess my time with E.M. left me a little unpopular with Amarr not to mention leaving me in a position where Concord is now looking over my shoulder.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-10-06 07:19:07 UTC
Oh, Mr Elle...

Please excuse me, I heard it was not appropriate in some languages to call everyone Miss if you are not sure about gender, like using word "haani" in our language. If this is true for your, please accept my apologies.

On the other note, you have said, that the Gallente Federation is guilty and hiding itself under label of "voice of freedom", if I understood you correctly. But being voice of freedom is a guilt itself, disregarding was it using as a cover, or true intention.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Lasairiona Raske
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#20 - 2014-10-06 18:45:01 UTC
Welcome back to space. I can't say I recall your name though. Fly safe!

Are you a devil or an angel

Sent here from heaven or from hell?

Sweet temptress, I'm wrapped in your tangles

Can't find my way out of your spell

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