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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-10-04 11:09:41 UTC
Hi fellow EVE dudes, I have a few questions on offline POS towers.


1) I can tell it's offline because there is no forcefield, correct? Also, this shows on dscan, too?

2) Will the weapon, neut, ewar batteries engage if the tower is offline?

3) Even if the tower is offline, I cannot unanchor anything until I blow the tower up, correct?

4) How much HP difference will an offline tower have compared to an online one? Will the hardener modules not be working, so that will affect EHP too?

5) Can I unanchor stuff AFTER the tower has been blown up?

6) I can blow up modules that have a chance to contain ships & materials and then loot them, correct? Which are these modules? Ship Maintenance arrays, Moon Reaction modules, invention and manufacturing modules, any other?


Thanks in advance! And any other interesting info on offline towers fun would be appreciated!

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-10-04 11:11:16 UTC
Sorry, last question: will an offline tower go into reinforced mode anyway if it has stronthium? Or does being offline also shut off reinforcement mode?

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-10-04 11:25:04 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Hi fellow EVE dudes, I have a few questions on offline POS towers.


1) I can tell it's offline because there is no forcefield, correct? Also, this shows on dscan, too?



I'm pretty sure that's the case, I believe there is a checkbox in the overview settings, so long as your overview profile has them you can seem them..

No clue about the rest though, I'm curious myself.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-10-04 11:29:36 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Hi fellow EVE dudes, I have a few questions on offline POS towers.


1) I can tell it's offline because there is no forcefield, correct? Also, this shows on dscan, too?

2) Will the weapon, neut, ewar batteries engage if the tower is offline?

3) Even if the tower is offline, I cannot unanchor anything until I blow the tower up, correct?

4) How much HP difference will an offline tower have compared to an online one? Will the hardener modules not be working, so that will affect EHP too?

5) Can I unanchor stuff AFTER the tower has been blown up?

6) I can blow up modules that have a chance to contain ships & materials and then loot them, correct? Which are these modules? Ship Maintenance arrays, Moon Reaction modules, invention and manufacturing modules, any other?


Thanks in advance! And any other interesting info on offline towers fun would be appreciated!

Pirate


1. Correct / No D-scan master but believe you can see forcefields on D-scan.

2. Nope, CT needs to be online to provide CPU / PG for modules to work. Offline tower means no modules will work.

3. Correct. Blow up the tower and scoop the rest. Or blow everything up for loot drops.

4. Modules don't work so hardeners are not effecting. Right click show info on shield HP / Armor HP etc. Also, no reinforce timers when offline.

5. Last time I checked, yes. Could have been changed by CCP though.

6. Yes / Hangar Arrays, Ship Maintenance arrays, Labs, Manufacture lines (basically everything besides hardeners and offensive stuff).

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-04 11:30:22 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Sorry, last question: will an offline tower go into reinforced mode anyway if it has stronthium? Or does being offline also shut off reinforcement mode?



Tower needs to be online for reinforce timers.

Offline towers behave just like yours ship...kill the shield, kill the armor, kill the structure and enjoy a nice explosion.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-10-04 11:57:09 UTC
Thanks much!

On a side note, Azda your avatar is getting hotter at every update.

Dat scar!!! ShockedLol

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#7 - 2014-10-04 12:47:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Haedonism Bot
It may be worth mentioning that when you get on grid and look at a tower or any modules, they will actually say "online" if they are online or "anchored" if they are not.

Also, when a tower is offline you can destroy the arrays and loot them, but you can't unanchor them unless you destroy the tower first.

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Tipa Riot
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Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-10-04 21:48:08 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
It may be worth mentioning that when you get on grid and look at a tower or any modules, they will actually say "online" if they are online or "anchored" if they are not.

Also, when a tower is offline you can destroy the arrays and loot them, but you can't unanchor them unless you destroy the tower first.

If I remember correctly a tower can be online without a forcefield if there is no password set. I'm not sure whether you can check this off-grid.

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Austrene Kanenald
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-10-05 06:13:09 UTC
1. Not correct. If there is no password set, the force field will not be visible, but the modules and things will still be active.

2. False, everything is offline if the tower is offline, because the tower powers them.

3. False, see 5.

4. Offline towers will not have hardeners active, so the ehp is exactly as the show info says (base resists are still there).

5. You cannot unanchor things ever without the permissions in the owner corp.

6. I am not certain, but I believe every module with storage has a chance to drop its contents when it gets blown up.
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-10-05 09:26:16 UTC
There's something I have read several times in these forums to consider as well.

You can't do anything unless you wardec the owning corp anyway, and I believe that counts regardless of whether the POS is online or offline.

ie: you can't just go around blowing up any POS you find, or any of the arrays.

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-05 10:14:25 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
[quote=Gully Alex Foyle]Hi fellow EVE dudes, I have a few questions on offline POS towers.


1) I can tell it's offline because there is no forcefield, correct? Also, this shows on dscan, too?

Pirate


1. Correct / No D-scan master but believe you can see forcefields on D-scan.

Just for clarification it is not always true, towers do not always have to have a force field to be online.

1. When the tower was put up incorrectly
2. When the tower Is a bug zapper. (Bait tower to kill people) supposed to look like a dead tower to lure people in then it fires at them.

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-10-05 10:16:26 UTC
Austrene Kanenald wrote:


5. You cannot unanchor things ever without the permissions in the owner corp.


If the tower is destroyed you can.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-10-05 12:43:27 UTC
Forest Archer wrote:
Austrene Kanenald wrote:


5. You cannot unanchor things ever without the permissions in the owner corp.


If the tower is destroyed you can.


This.

As soon as you kill the offline stick any anchored module automatically goes to "Unanchored" mode and thus can be scooped to your cargohold.

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Austrene Kanenald
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-10-05 13:14:12 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
Forest Archer wrote:
Austrene Kanenald wrote:


5. You cannot unanchor things ever without the permissions in the owner corp.


If the tower is destroyed you can.


This.

As soon as you kill the offline stick any anchored module automatically goes to "Unanchored" mode and thus can be scooped to your cargohold.

I was thinking of directly unanchoring, not using that. Thanks for correcting it :p.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-05 15:42:31 UTC
Austrene Kanenald wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
Forest Archer wrote:
Austrene Kanenald wrote:


5. You cannot unanchor things ever without the permissions in the owner corp.


If the tower is destroyed you can.


This.

As soon as you kill the offline stick any anchored module automatically goes to "Unanchored" mode and thus can be scooped to your cargohold.

I was thinking of directly unanchoring, not using that. Thanks for correcting it :p.


It used to be the quickest way to get rid of garbage on the moons, but now with loot-drop added to structures...I would just shoot everything, you never know what is inside it.

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-05 15:45:18 UTC
Drago Shouna wrote:
You can't do anything unless you wardec the owning corp anyway, and I believe that counts regardless of whether the POS is online or offline..

That only applies to high sec of course.

I don't think anyone mentioned the corporate hangar array or personal hangar array. That's where the stored modules are likely to drop from. Together with the ship maintenance array they're usually the most valuable. We call an offlined POS with an XLSMA the "officer spawn of wormhole space".

"Forcefield" is an option in the overview settings. I believe under the celestials folder IIRC.

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-10-05 16:49:27 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:


"Forcefield" is an option in the overview settings. I believe under the celestials folder IIRC.


That would explain things, I was looking under structures and couldn't find it at all. Just looked and I can confirm it is under Celestial, for some reason.

Grrr.
Solecist Project
#18 - 2014-10-05 17:47:09 UTC
Great thread!
Right on time!

My corpmate said there's an offline tower with guns and I decced that corp within five seconds. ^_^

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