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Epic changes to jump mechanics inbound. Will the demand for capitals cease? What would a possible replacement be?

Will this be the end of the world? Does it mean that the large entities will have a much harder time holding so much sov and it splits to smaller powers again?

Let your mind run freely, just noticed there was no topic about it yet!

I heard the JF market is pretty hot right now...

Personally I bought up some hyperspatial mods and rigs. As with the changes it seems like they will be used more now with caps going gate to gate.

I don't agree with this. Since JFs are still epic for transporting stuff this will be much less of an issue than you think.

If we see an influence to Minerals it will be because Caps in general become less popular and therefore doctrines shift away to something else.

If these changes really result in cap ships, or just more ships in general, using gates, then I'd think there'd be money to be made in both T1 and T2 (especially) bubbles. The T2 bubbles are already pretty scarce, and demand for them should rise.

It really depends on how this patch goes.

If jump fatigue is on the pilot alone, I see a huge spike in training implants and a market for training jumping alts, which means an increase in training implants market. This will over all cause a flux in plex markets from major SoV entities buying plex off the market with their sweet sweet renting money.

Math For Jumping Alts


For Archon with JDC 5 and Fuel conservation 4 = 198 days - 22 days (optimized attributes) - (39 days with +5 for Int,Per,Will, Mem cause **** charisma) = 137 day train. (This is the safest market because Archon is OP)

137days / 30 days = 4.5 plex = 5 plex in real life.

Let's optimize this a little more since we have to spend 5 plex, don't need as many implants.

5 plex x 30days/plex = 150 days. 150 days-137 = 13 days. 39 days - 13 days = 26 days....

Which means.... I only need Three +3 implants and one +4 implant.

So end math is

198 - 22 days - 28 days = 148 days.

2 plex covers Skills cost
2 plex covers implants
5 plex covers training the character.

11 plex total.

Make the renters pay for the plex. Sell the jump alt to my buddies in Sov.

GG CCP


Now if the Nerf is applied to both pilot and ship!


The market will spike in capital caches throughout Sov, which means an increase in Battle Ready Pilots + Battle Ready Capital, so a lot more markets will spike.

More capital caches means more isotope caches.....

Logistics on an obscene scale. O.o This will be massive, but easily overcome. Most likely those sick, sick demented people in logistics are literally jerking off to figuring out this problem and profiting from it while using Nullbear Tears as lube.


Overall assessment .... Plex will continue to rise. More renters (essentially slaves, citizens, tax payers, plebs) will be moved into SoV to pay for heavier cost. More of SoV will be forced to be utilized and therefore more stations in SoV will be built. Those coalitions without Renters (Citizens) will crumble under the pressure of larger coalitions.

Overall advice

-Scare Supper, capital pilots into selling you their characters for cheap and sell them to the SoV entities that will be hurting for them later on for an obscene markup :3

Looks like there's a scare on zyd, morph, and mega. Wish i could seriously invest in those.. I only have a few mils =(

I agree, but just thought about something else...

Perhaps this will cause the nullsec miners to not ship their ice mats into high-sec for selling, due to decreased profits in doing so. In conjunction with increased prices in shipping POS fuel down, we might see more null miners selling their stocks to null POS owners, without using high-sec as a medium for the trade.

This in turn would cause a decrease in supply in high-sec, but also a decrease in demand. Which would outweigh the other? How would market manipulation play into such a scenario?

I'm definitely selling off my stock though, as you suggested. This is too stressful for me!!

Some Nullsec entities are going to have to revisit their doctrines.

There will be a need to replace or augment cap doctrines with some other kind of DPS doctrine.

PL will be nerfed badly. They have used zealot doctrines in the past and being PL I would expect them to dust that off in addition to a tengu doctrine. A lot more of these kinds of ships will be destroyed. Not only PL's but the copy cats as well.

PL and NCDOT don't have alpha doctrines that aren't based around caps. I would watch to see what they come with.

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minerals should decrease due to less demand tbh (less capitals will be built)

... morphite is a special case since it only feeds into t2 and is mostly sourced from null. It is possible it goes up.