Warfare & Tactics

Well, the train over time isn't broken because it can't be manipulated or power leveled, so working as intended. The problem is that a lot of people just want to jump into eve and have everything available without putting the time in. You can't ignore the fact that it's mainly a point of view issue with people expecting too much to come without paying your dues, etc. The only issue is trying to get around that, but this game has never been intended to be an arcade style game. It's highly complex, hard as hell to master, and the learning curve is an over-arcing cliff by design. Honestly if it was any easier I wouldn't play it and would move on to whatever is the hardest thing to play. Some people like to just jump in and have mindless fun. I have to be engaged in extremely difficult challenges to figure out how to overcome them. It's POV of the player. Honestly, EVE is the last bastion of any challenging video games. I would probably just quit playing video games all together if this gets any closer to WOW. Most of us that have been in EVE for years are here to be away from those with a WOW mindset and not put up with whining kids screaming obscenities. This is a re-roll character by the way, not my original, or an alt. EVE used to be the place for people like me to conquer said challenges without having to put up with a community like wow raiders, etc. Those wishing for easier stuff had pretty much every other video game. Now it's being ripped out of that niche for "business purposes" literally snubbing those of us who share my POV. I don;t mind those people being in the game, but when they are just given all the stuff that us who had to grind and skill for YEARS to obtain it is almost literally flipping the bird at us and making all that past effort totally pointless. This is why the term bitter vet cam about and most of the original player base simply left eve. Or some of them infiltrate and intentionally crap on the whiney alliances to make it more difficult. You can't give either side what they want without totally snubbing the other and with every other game trying to be all-inclusive I ask why can't those of us who want our extreme learning curve have 1 place, 1 game that IS NOT like that where we can take on those challenges and say F you to those who are too thin skinned, or can't cut it?

The time factor is all a bit screwy, I'm not sure if the only reason train over time exists is because new type of game can do it, so lets use it because it is different. It has a mixture of things happening in real time and symbolic time, how long it would actually take and what is best for the game.
Time Factor = How well you know the game but that multiplies by what your character can do. A massive advantage that they try to even out by making the higher skills take longer which works to some extent..
The concept that the character has to do everything on a ship, whatever size ship, yeah ok we want to keep the arcade side of things don't we ?

I'm not sure the existence of crew (Possibly as a module) that provide artificial skills would affect that, it would just provide an alternative route with disadvantages to having the skills yourself.

ISK can't buy everything but it can have a bloody good try is what I am thinking.

Depends what you mean by win but yes as far as I am aware ISK already has a fairly significant influence. You should be able to use ISK how you want, it is up to players to calculate the best way to spend it.

You can buy space ship crew in WoW ?

Apologies fo posting this in so many sections but it is taking a while for me to think about all this. I think that what you have said is a bit of a contradiction. On the one hand you want to retain this character focus and have the edge but on the other you want to distance yourself from the arcade side of the game. I like the way people can jump in a ship, go out and have fun, I like the logistics and empire contro that you can aspire to. I like the way characters can be good at things to gain an advantage in their element. I'm not so keen on the idea that everything works like that. Eve is also a political game, it's not just about number crunching and optimizing. Your greatest asset might not be part of the game rules.

I will tighten my game up as I get used to it.

It's not a contradiction. In other words, I wait patiently while doing other fun things in eve, until the skills for a certain ship with a certain fit are almost maxed out before taking it into pvp. It's a sacrifice as not being able to pvp right away. But on the other hand, it is not because there are so many things to do in eve. Other people don't mind going out with lower skills and that is their choice. I like that they do, because it makes it that much easier for me to kill them when they are less capable. I like that gap and scale in skills training. If it didn't exist then it would be people in the same ship, same fit with same skills and the only deciding factor being who clicked where on screen more accurately, or faster, etc. There are a ton of game out there that run on that kind of twitch gaming and eve is intentionally not one of them. Many people choose eve because of this difference. Trying to make it easier for new players to skip skills or get other advantages to more quickly get up to par with skills promotes advancement of people that are more lazy than before. It attracts the wrong kind of people and creates the undesired atmosphere that most existing people who make EVE home intend to avoid all together.

Aren't time-based bonuses already covered by combat boosters though?