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code permit holders...... safe from ganking?

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-10-03 06:27:33 UTC
is there a group who activiely and aggressively gank code permit holders?

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2 - 2014-10-03 06:29:38 UTC
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-10-03 06:32:55 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Anyone can.

heh, I gathered that but I was wondering if one already exists..

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dark heartt
#4 - 2014-10-03 06:35:11 UTC
No one is safe from ganking, and by buying a "permit", all you are doing is protecting yourself from one group of people who gank. That's all.

As for groups who aggressively gank those who do buy permits, I'm sure they exist, but I've never heard of a specific group.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#5 - 2014-10-03 06:48:17 UTC
I meet at least one every week who claims he ganks or will gank only permit holders. Their killboards where all empty so far.

Since we gank permit holders if they don't follow the Code, we are probably the group you are looking for after all Big smile

Evil RatKid
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#6 - 2014-10-03 06:53:00 UTC
A-G's permit-holder-killer force is almost on a par with their anti-ganking force. Genuinely.

They also have deep and insightful debates on the morality of shooting spaceships in a shooting spaceships game.

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Solecist Project
#7 - 2014-10-03 07:37:21 UTC
yeah. dont waste your time with a permit.
Just be smart. these people are hypocrite carebears only anyway.

other people will come and kill you for that permit,
especially as you speak up openly about buying one.


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Black Pedro
Mine.
#8 - 2014-10-03 07:51:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
Barbara Nichole wrote:
is there a group who activiely and aggressively gank code permit holders?


No, there is no evidence that an organized effort to gank permit holders exists. There has been some impotent bluster from the usual places, but in the end there has been no discernible action by any group.

Are you thinking of starting one, or just evaluating the cost/benefit of a permit? Because if it is the later I can assure you that your 10M ISK/ year is a good investment in safeguarding your assets. The monetary amount is a fraction of what even one ship loss will cost you, plus the chances of a running into a New Order ganker while mining bareback (i.e. without a permit) are orders of magnitude higher than being found by some (mythical?) anti-New Order gank squad.

If you are planning on starting some sort of a permit-gank organization, please let us know so we can follow your progress. Personally, I love emergent gameplay like this - it is way more entertaining than the usual pouting and whining you get from most of the A-G folks.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2014-10-03 08:02:01 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Since we gank permit holders if they don't follow the Code, we are probably the group you are looking for after all Big smile


The Code wrote:
Upon being suicide ganked, a miner should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary.


Of course, I'll leave it up to the reader to figure out how the New Order enforcer will determine whether or not the code-subscribed miner is compliant with that portion of the code.

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Ms Forum Alt
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-10-03 08:23:48 UTC
I wonder how many new players, having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.
Solecist Project
#11 - 2014-10-03 08:34:18 UTC
Ms Forum Alt wrote:
I wonder how many new players, having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.
That's most likely still far less, though,
than all the new players who get griefed by assholes in rookie corps,
being told to mine, run missions, avoid lowsec because it's a deathtrap.

Basically being told to play solo ... which is the most disconnected thing from the game.

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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#12 - 2014-10-03 08:35:18 UTC
Ms Forum Alt wrote:
I wonder how many new players, having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.
I wonder how many new players, not having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#13 - 2014-10-03 08:43:56 UTC
Ms Forum Alt wrote:
I wonder how many new players, having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.

If you quit a game about exploding spaceship because your spaceship exploded then the game wasn't probably for you.

It's like asking: How many Dust players quit Dust because they did not like to die by gunfire?

Evil RatKid
Lady Areola Fappington
#14 - 2014-10-03 08:45:03 UTC
Ms Forum Alt wrote:
I wonder how many new players, having the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to resub.

Probably quite a few.



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MajorBean
HandelsGilde-De
Outsmarted
#15 - 2014-10-03 09:10:41 UTC
The CODE is love i say, The CODE is live.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-10-03 09:15:22 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
is there a group who activiely and aggressively gank code permit holders?


I have heard of a grand total of two players that do this. However, it is highly likely that there are many more that might gank you without one. Please reduce the odds that you'll get ganked by getting a permit and complying with the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-10-03 09:21:45 UTC
There might be a couple of people that do it, but there are far more people that kill non-compliant miners.

Just an FYI, you're never safe. Don't go thinking that simply coughing up 10M ISK will help in that regard. You'll need to pay 10M and stick to the Code if you want the best chance of survival.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#18 - 2014-10-03 09:38:39 UTC
I wonder how many new players, even got the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to check.

Probably only a few.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-10-03 09:46:32 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
I wonder how many new players, even got the CODE "new player experience", haven't bothered to check.

Probably only a few.


I wonder how many new players have ended up in CODE

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Axel Sonen
#20 - 2014-10-03 11:14:54 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
is there a group who activiely and aggressively gank code permit holders?


CODE.
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