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New Pilot in need of advice.

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Valaz Vrinn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-10-02 12:33:41 UTC
Hi I have tried the game, and have come to the conclusion, that I want to make more of it.

I am going to get me a buddy account, to get some start benefit, I have read that I can have multiple account on same email address, so I'm going for that.
I know the questions I'm gonna ask have multiple answers as people have different opinions.
I was thinking of starting a Caldari character aiming for a Drake/Raven.
I'm asking these questions since many of the searches on the www gives outdated information.


- When I made my first char I just picked some bloodline to try it out, but how does bloodline affect your character (where can i read about them)?

- What skills should I go for aiming for those ships?

- What ships would be best to go through to get those I'm aiming for ?

- What fittings would be good to learn and advance in the game?



I have no clue what I'm going to do, beside hunting pirates, and making ISK.

I'll gladly take any advice, making character, fitting my ship, and be good at something so a corp could use me for something good.
I'm open for all advices.

Best regards
Valaz



Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-10-02 13:32:02 UTC
Bloodline is just an aesthetic choice, so is race really. You can fly anything with any character, you just have to invest the time into it (SP).

When it comes to what skills you should train, that will depend on what you decide on doing, but it sounds like you want the more combat oriented skills, in which case I can't recommend the following enough:

http://blog.beyondreality.se/Newbie-skill-plan-2

That guide, and list gives you a good broad base to start with. I've been using it as a guideline since I started a few months back and am very satisfied with it. I can now at 3 months in fly T1 Gallente frigates with mostly T2 modules at a decent level, and have decently rounded 'core' skills (fitting skills, capacitor, shields, armor, all skills that affect all ships).

There is also no best ship, only the best ships for a certain task, and even then it seems people debate that a lot anyway.

Also give PvP a shot once you get a hang of the game's interface and understand some basic concepts. It's hard, and you'll die a lot, but it's also a hell of a good time and you'll learn a lot, even if you decide not to be a PvPer a bit of experience will be useful, you'll learn to think like a pvper and be able to avoid them if you need to. For that I recommend this:

http://www.evealtruist.com/p/article-index.html

Some of it is a bit old, but the concepts he describes are the most important, things like what kiting is, brawling, basic ship fitting principles depending on your role etc...

Hope that helps and welcome to EVE, the most masochistic MMO on the market Big smile. If you need any help this forum is great, lot's of helpful people and a lot of information to soak up. Take your time and enjoy.


Grrr.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-10-02 13:39:59 UTC
Valaz Vrinn wrote:
Hi I have tried the game, and have come to the conclusion, that I want to make more of it.

I am going to get me a buddy account, to get some start benefit, I have read that I can have multiple account on same email address, so I'm going for that.
I know the questions I'm gonna ask have multiple answers as people have different opinions.
I was thinking of starting a Caldari character aiming for a Drake/Raven.
I'm asking these questions since many of the searches on the www gives outdated information.


- When I made my first char I just picked some bloodline to try it out, but how does bloodline affect your character (where can i read about them)?

- What skills should I go for aiming for those ships?

- What ships would be best to go through to get those I'm aiming for ?

- What fittings would be good to learn and advance in the game?



I have no clue what I'm going to do, beside hunting pirates, and making ISK.

I'll gladly take any advice, making character, fitting my ship, and be good at something so a corp could use me for something good.
I'm open for all advices.

Best regards
Valaz






1. Bloodline / Race has VERY limited impact on the game. What it changes is:

* Where you start in EVE (related to your race and starting condition)
* What rookie-frigate you get when you dock somewhere without a ship (race related)
* What NPC starter corp / NPC default corp you end up with (race / bloodline / start condition related).
* What very basic skills you start with (which anybody else can crosstrain in max 1.5 day).

So, unless you are unhappy about your look and/or name there is NEVER a reason to restart. Just train (there is no penalty on training anything. EVE doesn't have fixed classes / roles / professions - your ship that you use is your "class / profession").

2. Drake / Raven > Missile skills, Shield, Core.

3. Kestrel / Condor (frigates) > Corax (destroyer) > Caracal (Cruiser) > Drake (BC) > Raven (BS)

But keep in mind that missiles have their pro's and con's and you might also want to dabble a bit into other things to see if you might find that more fun to play with.

4. Pff. Stopped using Drake and Ravens a long long time ago (even before the ship tiericide happened).

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Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#4 - 2014-10-02 14:29:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnathan Coffey
Valaz Vrinn wrote:
- When I made my first char I just picked some bloodline to try it out, but how does bloodline affect your character (where can i read about them)?
Five years ago or so, the race and blood line decided what attributes your char would have, and since attributes determine how fast you learn skills, you would have to pick the right race and blood line, depending on which ship you would like to fly. Then, CCP realized that that was a stupid idea and changed it, so that now bloodlines only decide where you start and what NPC corp you land in when you have no "real" corp.

Quote:
- What skills should I go for aiming for those ships?
Caldari ships and missile skills, obviously. Then shield skills, and "core" skills like capacitor, navigation etc. The newbie skill plan linked above is a good start.

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- What ships would be best to go through to get those I'm aiming for ?
Pretty much what J'Poll said, but be aware that it is not necessarily a "levelling" process. Depending on what you want to do, a Kestrel might be much more useful than a Raven.

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- What fittings would be good to learn and advance in the game?

For Caldari missile ships it's usually pretty simple: put Ballistic Control Systems in the low energy slots, a shield tank in the medium slots and the appropriate missile launchers in the high energy slots. Missiles and shield tanks are often tight on CPU, so training CPU management early and fitting CPU rigs is usually a good idea. This is just a general guideline, if you are looking for specific fit, Google and Battleclinic are your friends.

Quote:
I have no clue what I'm going to do, beside hunting pirates, and making ISK.

I'll gladly take any advice, making character, fitting my ship, and be good at something so a corp could use me for something good.
I'm open for all advices.

The best and most common advice is to not let EVE become a second job. Once killing pirates for ISK stops being fun, you should stop doing it and look for something else to do. If you find yourself space-poor, you can always buy a PLEX from CCP and sell it on the market.

First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING.

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-10-02 14:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Valaz Vrinn wrote:


I'll gladly take any advice, making character, fitting my ship, and be good at something so a corp could use me for something good.
I'm open for all advices.


The most simple and also the only true advice you should listen to:


Have fun.



In the end EVE is a game.
It's a game YOU pay for.

So you decide how to have fun, not anybody else and never do something you don't like to do.




Btw (and this is from first hand experience), try different things in EVE. You might find something fun to do that you didn't even consider in the first place. Also, keep in mind that "goals" can change with time.

I started as an miner / industrialist, but with time I found out I didn't like it as much as I hoped I would do...so I moved to other things (and currently doing a little bit of industry again, to see if new industry changes made it fun again).

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Mobbel Ernaga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-10-02 15:31:20 UTC
Regarding the Buddy Account: What benefits do you mean? I mean it has some and people with only 1 account are a minority in this game but from the perspective of a new player I really don't see any advantages this may give.
Valaz Vrinn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-10-02 15:40:01 UTC
Mobbel Ernaga wrote:
Regarding the Buddy Account: What benefits do you mean? I mean it has some and people with only 1 account are a minority in this game but from the perspective of a new player I really don't see any advantages this may give.


The most of them offers you ISK to use their Buddy link, and that can only be an advantages right?
Mobbel Ernaga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-10-02 15:52:23 UTC
Just for the isk? No. Wheres the point in giving someone a discount selling a PLEX for you?
Valaz Vrinn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-10-02 16:04:38 UTC
Mobbel Ernaga wrote:
Just for the isk? No. Wheres the point in giving someone a discount selling a PLEX for you?


I may have misunderstod this, but I dont pay for the buddy account, in only subscribe for the game, or am I all wrong.

Isent that what it says here ?

*****
I will give you 7 MILLION ISK UPFRONT for just using my buddy link. No obligations necessary and no questions asked. It's yours to keep forever. If you create a trial account with me you get 21 days instead of 14 days. An extra 7 days free!!!

If you decide to upgrade your account (using a subsciption) you will get an extra 600M isk transferred to your wallet from yours truly as well as the opportunity to ask me any questions you have on your mind about the game. So ponder away during your trial and ask away when you've decided.

*****
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-10-02 16:37:16 UTC
No offense. But a new player is NOT helped with ISK.

In general a new player will burn through it and then hit a brick wall when they find out they have been living well above their "pay grade".

A new player doesnt need couple of hundred million ISK as nothing he actually can use / has to buy is that expansive.

P.s. the guys that shoot you the invite are offering to give you that much iSK so you choose them (human nature means people choose for the big bucks) but they also get a couple of hundred mil for each succesful buddy invite and thus gain more from more customers.

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Mobbel Ernaga
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-02 17:58:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Mobbel Ernaga
Valaz Vrinn wrote:
I may have misunderstod this, but I dont pay for the buddy account, in only subscribe for the game, or am I all wrong.


In this special case you're right, it's free isk. But why register only one then? It's totally legal to register 10 or 20...if he doesn't pay file a petition and let GMs take care of it.

Before I forget it, one really good tip for a newbie: Don't accept duels, let the timer run out or decline...better do the first so you annoy the silly freak on the other side a little bit. Done the tutorials recently and got some of them from the ususal suspects...so I think a word of warning is necessary. Otherwise you will loose your ship and have a 99% chance to get podkilled.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#12 - 2014-10-03 03:53:09 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
4. Pff. Stopped using Drake and Ravens a long long time ago (even before the ship tiericide happened).


I don't think anything meaningful happened there. slight slot layout changes more or less.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-10-03 06:44:06 UTC
Valaz Vrinn wrote:
I have read that I can have multiple account on same email address, so I'm going for that.


While that is indeed true, I would recommend you start with just one account. You don't need an alt character early on. When you do need an alt, and you'll then know that you do and what you need them for, then get a second account and start training up the alt.

Otherwise you'll end up paying for multiple accounts while one of those accounts does nothing beneficial for you
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#14 - 2014-10-03 10:43:55 UTC
As you gain experience, and want to take on more complex challenges, you will almost certainly reach a point where having a second account...or a third or a fourth... becomes very useful. definitely, wait until you find yourself saying "You know, it would be so much easier to do x if I could fly another ship at the same time" which ought to be a good signal that it's time.

Also, you may find it useful to purchase a character from the character bazaar at that point; if you are clear on what you want to do with the second account, it can save you a ton of time to buy a character with the skillset you will need vs. rolling a new one and growing it from scratch.


"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#15 - 2014-10-03 12:30:42 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
No offense. But a new player is NOT helped with ISK.



A new player doesnt need couple of hundred million ISK as nothing he actually can use / has to buy is that expansive.


700M ISK from a single PLEX sale will set a canny new player up with a decent income from playing the market.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-10-03 12:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Mara Rinn wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
No offense. But a new player is NOT helped with ISK.



A new player doesnt need couple of hundred million ISK as nothing he actually can use / has to buy is that expansive.


700M ISK from a single PLEX sale will set a canny new player up with a decent income from playing the market.



Though most don't get 700mil. Most offers go up to max 600mil (usually less).

So for each invite someone shoots, they make 100mil. Now if you get 8 invites a month (say you are active on a big-ish forum)...it's easily possible that new players "pay for your sub".

Sure it's a nice gesture, but other then an aspiring market trader, nobody in their first month needs that much ISK.

And (I have this too on alts I created) if you did it all yourself it's much more satisfying when your wallet blinks at 100mil the first time.
With JP it was an actual milestone I reached, I felt happy and even though there were people much richer, it gave gratification that it was "my" money. Now with an alt, it just feels less of a milestone.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-10-18 03:26:49 UTC
All of the 56 thousand skill points that a new toon is born with can be trained in a little over a day and the skills that are different between the races probably about 4 hours worth. Any race can fly any ship so none of that matters. Pick a toon you like either looks or RP lore stuff or what ever floats your boat. Skill points wise the race that you choose and the ships that you choose to fly need not have anything to do with each other.

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