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Hey, CCP: Guess What?

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#21 - 2011-12-12 17:23:51 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Morganta wrote:
no lag here
get better internets and pooter

How to fix the server-side issues: upgrade client-side.

Flawless victory.


I could agree with that, but for a toon named FIX LAG?

That sounds like a chronic issue
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-12-12 17:31:39 UTC
EVE has been plagued with server-side lag since it was made, and it will keep on being plagued by it until CCP figures out a way to scale things a lot better. The current way of doing things, everything in a solar system in one process, means that no matter how much they optimize or how much hardware they throw at the problem, they're still going to hit on a limit where they just can't cope with what's going on.

If they do manage to split it into a per character process, that limit is still there, but you're going to have to really work hard to reach it, and CCP could scale out properly by adding more servers and spread players even thinner across the server park.

As Veritas says, however, there are lots of issues with going down that path. I can only hope that if they do go down this path, th at they can fix the problems inherent in this design. It would be nice to have a day where lag was just more or less gone.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
#23 - 2011-12-12 17:49:44 UTC
Morgantas sig wrote:
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Sorry to derail, but i just noticed that... Lol
Spurty
#24 - 2011-12-12 17:55:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Spurty
CCP Veritas wrote:
touchy, fundamental bits


Was the only bit I commented on, but someone ganked my reply. ..

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Katrina Bekers
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2011-12-12 18:44:36 UTC
CCP Veritas wrote:
There's different amounts of feasibility for different aspects, however. For instance, moving the physics simulation of each individual ship to a per user computation unit calls into question how collisions are resolved, since it would be two independent simulations agreeing on exactly the same event. I doubt that would be an easier problem to solve than just having a unit of space be the computational unit for physics.

What about middle ground?

If per solar system is too broad and per user too narrow, what about per grid?

Moving objects into and out of grids (aka warping) should give Dogma enough time to move data structures around to different simulator units, while keeping the relative size of each simulator within manageable boundaries and eventually find the Holy Grail of on-the-fly load/node (re)balancing within the mesh.

<< THE RABBLE BRIGADE >>
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2011-12-12 18:58:51 UTC
A grid can still contain thousands of ships.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
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