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[Oceanus] Interceptor Updates

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rsantos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#421 - 2014-09-30 09:09:10 UTC
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?


They will still roam in interceptors... you will just not see so many maledictions. Not even sure about that since you can get rocket to hit out to 20km for about the same damage you would get with caldari navy light missiles.
Phaade
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#422 - 2014-09-30 14:43:02 UTC
Thanks CCP, you have utterly gutted the Crow.

It's now a Condor with a bit more point range and smaller sig.

Cool.
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings
#423 - 2014-09-30 15:29:21 UTC
Robert Caldera wrote:
nerf interceptors align time so I can catch them at least with a remote sensor boosted fastlocker.
Instawarping interceptors is the worst thing happened to eve for a long time.


The worst thing since instalock gatecamps. :v
Nienna Leralonde
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#424 - 2014-09-30 15:51:58 UTC
goodbye crow,malediction until buff.raptor seems semi decent now on paper,still not to be compared to other combat interceptors/t1 frigs.so much nerf in this patch
Igor Nappi
Doomheim
#425 - 2014-09-30 17:12:42 UTC
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."

Furthermore, I think that links must be removed from the game.
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#426 - 2014-09-30 17:33:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Alp Khan
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships when I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance. CCP, please take away the nerf and rebuff Malediction, bring my favorite broken ship back."
Igor Nappi
Doomheim
#427 - 2014-09-30 17:36:05 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships all the while I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only undock in a fleet of 1000. We can't have ships that are able to evade the blob".

Furthermore, I think that links must be removed from the game.
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#428 - 2014-09-30 17:41:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alp Khan
Igor Nappi wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships all the while I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only undock in a fleet of 1000. We can't have ships that are able to evade the blob".


"I'm still bad at this game and pretty much the only thing I'm somewhat good at is finding excuses for my apparent inability to be better at playing EVE. Blaming my lack of competency on a mythical blob is my favorite activity. I'm also sad now, as I won't be able to evade anybody who wants to take the fight back to me when I'm flying around my interceptor to look for AFK ratting ships to kill. Now if someone wants to fight back, I'll no longer be able to run away from them and will suffer a quick death at their hands."

HTFU, you bear.
rsantos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#429 - 2014-09-30 20:36:49 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships when I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance. CCP, please take away the nerf and rebuff Malediction, bring my favorite broken ship back."


Your bad at this game because you can't form up a camp with a interceptor with two sensor boosters and a daredevil.

because its all its takes to catch the fit i linked...
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#430 - 2014-09-30 22:32:31 UTC
you aren't fooling anyone, kitebads. I know it's all still crazy OP.
Swifo
BooZe N 5luts
#431 - 2014-10-01 00:05:19 UTC
so, Crow is now complete garbage. Nice work CCP! cant even fit 4 x t2 light missile launchers, mse and mwd unless you have genolutions, navy mapc AND an acr!! you killed the pitiful damage that did do, the very least you could have done was to buff the fitting a bit so it could still be fit roughly the same.
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#432 - 2014-10-01 01:59:53 UTC
so, Stiletto is now complete garbage. Nice work CCP! cant even fit 4 x 280mm howitzers, mse and mwd
Jaysen Larrisen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#433 - 2014-10-01 02:32:57 UTC
I don't mind the Inty's getting trimmed down a bit but ...wow.

Logged on this morning to check out my Crow's and it's honestly pretty ridiculous. Honestly, they should have just made the damage bonus change (effectively lowering DPS and range) and left it with 3x highs and 3x lows. Gather data on it and if warranted in the next update to adjust it further then I've got no issue with it.

Serious question for the dev team:
When you make the changes to ships that effect them this significantly I wonder what fits you have in mind for the players to run. I honestly like the idea of making choices and trade offs but rarely have I seen the trade-offs be quite a s stark as they are with the Crow...I would like to hear a bit from the Fozzie and Rise on how they envision players setting up the ships based on this adjustment.




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Phaade
LowKey Ops
Shadow Cartel
#434 - 2014-10-01 15:47:24 UTC
Jaysen Larrisen wrote:
I don't mind the Inty's getting trimmed down a bit but ...wow.

Logged on this morning to check out my Crow's and it's honestly pretty ridiculous. Honestly, they should have just made the damage bonus change (effectively lowering DPS and range) and left it with 3x highs and 3x lows. Gather data on it and if warranted in the next update to adjust it further then I've got no issue with it.

Serious question for the dev team:
When you make the changes to ships that effect them this significantly I wonder what fits you have in mind for the players to run. I honestly like the idea of making choices and trade offs but rarely have I seen the trade-offs be quite a s stark as they are with the Crow...I would like to hear a bit from the Fozzie and Rise on how they envision players setting up the ships based on this adjustment.







Exactly.

Most times you are able to come up with something good by having a very tight fit using the proper combination of mods. The Crow has been so destroyed that you are left with awkward amounts of PG / CPU on just about every fit.

Not to mention you can barely squeeze a SASB for tank. I'm not sure if you know this, but a SASB is completely worthless.
Alp Khan
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#435 - 2014-10-01 16:49:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Alp Khan
rsantos wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships when I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance. CCP, please take away the nerf and rebuff Malediction, bring my favorite broken ship back."


Your bad at this game because you can't form up a camp with a interceptor with two sensor boosters and a daredevil.

because its all its takes to catch the fit i linked...


EVE server code works on one second ticks. Unless you are literally living in the same room with the EVE server cluster, it is impossible to lock and point an interceptor that can align and enter warp in 2 seconds or less, regardless of how many sensor boosters you fit on the gatecamping ship, or how many remote sebos the gatecamping ship receives.

Feel free to educate yourself.
Theronth Valarax
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#436 - 2014-10-02 01:17:47 UTC
Tested our Raptor, seems like a good counterweight to Taranis altough I still prefer the latter.

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Reynas Arthie
Doomheim
#437 - 2014-10-02 03:01:12 UTC
Really couldn't care less about most of these changes tbh.

But really disappointing that something hasn't been done to the Sader to actually make it useful (other than nullified travel) seeing as the slicer/retribution pretty much renders it obsolete.
rsantos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#438 - 2014-10-02 09:50:55 UTC
Alp Khan wrote:
rsantos wrote:
Alp Khan wrote:
Igor Nappi wrote:
HarlyQ wrote:
is it down time yet? becasue im looking forward to seeing what people to instead of roaming in interceptors maybe real pvp ships?

"My terrible blob is too terrible to counter a frigate. CCP please nerf."


"I'm bad at this game and very risk averse as a result. I only want to kill other ships when I'm flying a ship that cannot be caught on gates, is immune to bubbles, can outrun even the fastest of light drones and light missiles while dealing damage from a safe, kiting distance. CCP, please take away the nerf and rebuff Malediction, bring my favorite broken ship back."


Your bad at this game because you can't form up a camp with a interceptor with two sensor boosters and a daredevil.

because its all its takes to catch the fit i linked...


EVE server code works on one second ticks. Unless you are literally living in the same room with the EVE server cluster, it is impossible to lock and point an interceptor that can align and enter warp in 2 seconds or less, regardless of how many sensor boosters you fit on the gatecamping ship, or how many remote sebos the gatecamping ship receives.

Feel free to educate yourself.


I roamed dekelin a lot in the past months and got pointed on gates often in the fit i posted but there was no strong webs or scram to keep me from crashing the gate... killed 150 plus interceptors gate camping past july (my alliance total was more than 450) ... you not teaching me nothing.
Theronth Valarax
V0LTA
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#439 - 2014-10-02 11:08:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Theronth Valarax
Reynas Arthie wrote:
Really couldn't care less about most of these changes tbh.

But really disappointing that something hasn't been done to the Sader to actually make it useful (other than nullified travel) seeing as the slicer/retribution pretty much renders it obsolete.

I flew Crusader for a few times last month and I actually enjoyed it a lot. You can get suprisingly a lot of gank and speed from this one, and AAR on top of that. The only issue is the cap management, it can get pretty tight in some situations without a NOS Executioner is enjoying. Other than that I feel it's in a good spot. It can easily outbrawl slicers and about Retri... well ceptors weren't really designed to be AF killers.

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Reynas Arthie
Doomheim
#440 - 2014-10-02 11:41:50 UTC
Theronth Valarax wrote:
Reynas Arthie wrote:
Really couldn't care less about most of these changes tbh.

But really disappointing that something hasn't been done to the Sader to actually make it useful (other than nullified travel) seeing as the slicer/retribution pretty much renders it obsolete.

I flew Crusader for a few times last month and I actually enjoyed it a lot. You can get suprisingly a lot of gank and speed from this one, and AAR on top of that. The only issue is the cap management, it can get pretty tight in some situations without a NOS Executioner is enjoying. Other than that I feel it's in a good spot. It can easily outbrawl slicers and about Retri... well ceptors weren't really designed to be AF killers.


Hmm might have to look at it again then.

Last time I checked them out a slicer would eat them for breakfast and retri's pretty much outclassed them in everything except raw speed. Do love my laser boats though Big smile