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Oceanus Crow

Author
Jesterspet
Creative Research and Production Services
#1 - 2014-09-28 22:20:55 UTC
Quote:
Crow:
Replaced the 10% per level kinetic damage bonus with a 5% per level missile explosion radius bonus.
-1 Lowslot
+1 Highslot
+1 Launcher
+5 CPU


damn.....Ugh
Battle BV Master
Bacon Never Dies
#2 - 2014-09-29 18:28:07 UTC
Who cares? Ceptors need two slots, Mids, Prop and Tackle. Rest is just pointless anyways.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#3 - 2014-09-30 09:55:02 UTC
Battle BV Master wrote:
Who cares? Ceptors need two slots, Mids, Prop and Tackle. Rest is just pointless anyways.


I believe you are getting mixed up between "throw away tackle frigates" and "combat interceptors". By your reconing we should just remove all t2 frigates
Residential UK
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-09-30 19:42:50 UTC
I'm struggling to find a solo fit that works. DPS against other frigates even with the explosion velocity buff is pathetic. Should have just gone gunnery like everyone else Sad
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#5 - 2014-09-30 22:03:46 UTC
Battle BV Master wrote:
Who cares? Ceptors need two slots, Mids, Prop and Tackle. Rest is just pointless anyways.

My Taranis, Crusader and other inties would like to swear loudly at you.

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Aptiva Rin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-10-01 04:52:55 UTC
So I logged in tonight thinking "Cool. I'll take my Crow out and go solo roam." That was until I noticed they took away a low slot and added a high slot. So with tinkering, I managed to online 3 of 4 launchers, but can't get a decent fit that includes all 4.

My question is... Why do that to the Crow? Does CCP hate Caldari ships so much that they nerf them all into the ground making them essentially useless? There were other frig candidates that could have been nerfed. Granted I lose speed in my fit, but that's what made the Crow decent when it came to it's role. Fast tackle.

What was the point of adding another launcher slot?
Watermelon Bandido
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2014-10-01 05:20:49 UTC
Aptiva Rin wrote:
So I logged in tonight thinking "Cool. I'll take my Crow out and go solo roam." That was until I noticed they took away a low slot and added a high slot. So with tinkering, I managed to online 3 of 4 launchers, but can't get a decent fit that includes all 4.

My question is... Why do that to the Crow? Does CCP hate Caldari ships so much that they nerf them all into the ground making them essentially useless? There were other frig candidates that could have been nerfed. Granted I lose speed in my fit, but that's what made the Crow decent when it came to it's role. Fast tackle.

What was the point of adding another launcher slot?


Was a nerf. The Crow was already terrible with PG when you fit a medium shield, MWD, and light missiles. So bad that every fit pretty much guarantees a power core, making one low slot pretty much useless. If you want a fit now, pick two out of those three: medium shield, MWD, or light missiles. Pretty lame.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#8 - 2014-10-01 06:58:12 UTC
How would you guys rate this fit?

[Crow, Engage-at-range]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I

Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE NINJA AssAssIn SQUAD eSports
#9 - 2014-10-01 08:30:43 UTC
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#10 - 2014-10-01 09:42:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Robert Caldera
less iterceptors in interceptors online is a good thing. nerf them some more.
Bad enough they still can be used as bubble proof instawarping shuttles.
Aptiva Rin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-10-01 19:07:02 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
How would you guys rate this fit?

[Crow, Engage-at-range]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Looks interesting, but not so sure about the rockets. I may play with that one later.
Disturbia Reigns
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-10-02 17:37:41 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
How would you guys rate this fit?

[Crow, Engage-at-range]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I



God in heaven. 59 DPS with all level 5 skills. Sorry not knocking the fit, just mourning what they did to one of my favorite looking ships. I will try and work out something that does more damage but god that fitting is tight.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Infinite Pew
#13 - 2014-10-02 20:51:18 UTC
Aptiva Rin wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
How would you guys rate this fit?

[Crow, Engage-at-range]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


Looks interesting, but not so sure about the rockets. I may play with that one later.

To be fair... the rockets are mostly there to swat off drones while tackling stuff.

In a way, it is no different from a railgun-Ares or AC-Stelleto.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#14 - 2014-10-03 10:11:33 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
How would you guys rate this fit?

[Crow, Engage-at-range]
Damage Control II
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor I, Targeting Range Dampening Script
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Javelin Rocket

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I



DPS is terrible, even moreso when you're fighting another kiting frig. It's not fast enough which can be a problem due to your damage range, you really want to make full use of your 30km point.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#15 - 2014-10-03 17:06:50 UTC
lol t2 LML and CN scourge I get 56.9dps, so that would be what ~58 dps with all 5s?

@ChainsawPlankto on twitter

Arsine Mayhem
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-10-03 20:04:42 UTC
Kynric
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#17 - 2014-10-04 00:39:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Kynric
It was nerfed but perhaps not as badly as first glance. It lost a damage bonus but gained a launcher. Yes less dps but no longer tied to scourge so perhaps actual applied dps did not drop by much. Also furies are a real option given its new bonus.