EVE General Discussion

Hey dude o/

I agree with this but i think it should be vary rare that you find a grav site with ice in it.. then perhaps i wouldn't instantly ignore any sig that wasn't a WH or combat site

My 0.02 isk on removing API information from wormholes:

Jumping into a previous unexplored system and piecing together the recent history of the place from killboards, API and scan data and probe hits is pretty much the most interesting thing about wormspace for me. You get to play Sherlock Holmes! You see a wreck, who made it? What was the time of death? What was the murder weapon? Where is the perpetrator now? In my opinion having the API data in there to help tell the story is a good thing. Because nine times out of ten something has happened in there and you missed it, so if you're not going to get a fight you can at least play vicariously through the story :D

So we have to wait until the next major patch to be able to fit our ships at SMAs again? As it is now, Crucible effectively broke SMAs by introducing a huge bug affecting everybody where there's a giant amount of lag removing/putting on one module to the point the OS shuts down the client for not responding.

Personally I think WH space is fine. I understand the dev's arguments (which don't seem to be that WH's are not to be colonized, but instead they didn't make them specifically with that in mind). WH space is very much a place of "here it is, make due with whatever is there".

And the big thing I guess is the definition of long term habitation. I tend to disagree with the OP's seeming argument that "daytripping" is the converse of long term living in a WH.

To put it in perspective I look at Null, which may be the closest compariston. In null, corps and alliances can take over systems, upgrade them and do all kinds of things to make it "theirs". And as such they do this for the long term generally, fighting to keep those systems etc.

WH space doesn't have any of this. And while higher class WH's may have more "permanent" residents, many C3's and down are much more transient in nature. Sure a corp may take up residence for 6 months, even a year. But many will still pull out after awhile. Then maybe move back at a later date to a new WH.

Personally I think keeping WH space for this kind of life is perfect. Make it too easy and WH space will just get even more crowded than it already is.

The majority of kills come from being in the right place at the right time anyways. I don't think I've gotten a kill because the API data showed me jumps or NPC kills; I've gotten kills because I see wrecks and ships on scan without a tower in range, or I've been bouncing in and out of the constellation throughout the day and finally catch sight of something.

Cant sympathize with OP.
Lived in WHs on and off since Apocrypha came out, from small trips to dozen of billions in permanent settlements.

API info should be removed completely, its laughable easy to assess potential targets and evaluate security of your home system with this info.

Same goes for logistics. Now it depends ofc where you choose to live, but if you know what your doing logistics are easily managable. You need more time, more ppl and have greater risks to steadily supply a 40 man 0.0 corp even with JFs and JBs then a 60 man C5 settlement.

There is no question that living in a WH is tedious at times, but this is "by design" (even if it is probably not consciously done by ccp)
Placing guards because of lack of local.
Return to scanning every time you have a new connection (at least BM distribution is now "fixed")
Waiting for sizeable groups to be online to run sites.
Waiting for a few pvp kills.

And it damn well should be tedious. The amount of money that WHs spew out when run effectively is ludicrous (ofc you can loose it fast as well), and when your sick of scanning, and bookmarking and waiting for kills after 6 months and want things to improve, then get a vacation from WHs. By then you will have enough ISK to pay for your account a couple of years anyway.

WHs dont need "personal storages", dont need moon mining, or god forbid upgradable systems and stations or any other "major" improvments. There fine and balanced for the amount of work they need and ISKs they pay out.

Granted things that should improve are the small mechanic problems that drive one insane, like T3 refits, beeing unable to open containers from inside the CHAs, hangar rights and role management that actually makes sense, repacking in CHAs and so on.

KM location may has well be the Constellation name where the WH entry is. Doesn't provide the system and so the actual location.

Err, I know where I killed him, so why can't I post that on my killmail? Like I said, I don't care if the dead person doesn't want anyone to know where he died. Likewise, if I die, why can't I let people know where I died?

If you really want to limit WH related information, remove the WH name, so you don't know where you are or what class of WH you are in. You can then remove the effect warning, so you have to work out for yourself what it is yoursefl, as well.

Like I've said in many other posts on these forums, be careful what you wish for, as you may get it and it won't be what you expected.

According to CCP local is constructed from intel gathered by pilot's use of the stargates. ergo, no use of stargates, no popping up in local.

No decent WH corp is going to care much about the removal of API info for wormholes.

We're all used to providing our own intel and security. This change might be bad for the tiny operations or the people that log their WH alts once a week to farm sites.

to be honest, the motto should be: work for your intel, or get out of w-space.