Wormholes

Could be one of two things. If you hit the completion trigger (normally the last wave in a site) and then leave, the site despawns in a matter of seconds. Or it could be a bug returning, there was an issue with data/relic sites a year or two ago where when you left grid to grab your analyzer/code breaker ship the cans would despawn. Having not experienced this in a while, I'm inclined to think it's the former, but we know CCP has been messing with wormholes lately and could very likely have (accidentally?) broken something.

I had an issue with a C4 data site today (forget which kind.) I was playing two chars and had some fleet-mates as well. One of them never left the grid.

I left grid to change ships so I could hack the data cans. When I came back, I couldn't see the cans on overview, graphically, or anything, on BOTH my clients. I had someone broadcast a can and I locked onto it, but the circle with HP/portrait/etc didn't appear. I left grid and warped back, same problem. I RELOGGED and warped back, same problem. **** it, I said, and I went around collecting MTUs. When I returned to the data site to scoop its MTU the cans were visible to me!

Now, all this time, my fleet-mates could see the cans. One of them was hacking away at them. At least it didn't cost us loot.

This was pretty confusing. My corpmate said he has seen it happen before in a K-space data site.

Thats a really nasty bug, make sure you report it next time you see it and if possible with a screenshot, as they never seem to follow up on most things posted on the forums, bug related.

Have you jumped through those statics?

Have seen this effect as well a few times already sind WH Patch. The sig ID and the place remains the same, but after the usual life time the Destination changed, i.e. it was indeed a new Exit / Wormhole, but it still had the same ID and bookmark. Strange Thing, but happende maybe 2-3 times since the patch.

a long time ago, in a wormhole far away
i cleared a data or relic site with a buddy, warped off to grab a hacking ship
came back site was gone, put in a petition.
CCP's answer was sometimes that can happen, always keep someone in the site at all times after the final wave has been spawned to ensure that it doesnt respawn.

with regards to the wormhole still being there, and then you jump through and you just get that silly timer and nothing happens.
yeah that sucks, often caused as people have said by a wormhole dying during downtime. simple solution, jump in, get the timer, restart client, delete bookmark and fly away.


Ive personally had both of these happen before and the wormhole one after hyperion, so its not something that CCP is doing now in all of their wormhole changes, just a few weird things that give wormholes character

It was actually very common back when downtime often lasted for a whole hour. Now it's less common because downtime is much shorter, so the probability that a hole would collapse during those 10 or 15 minutes is much lower.

I have theorized that it might be possible to keep a kind of permanent hisec static in a c5 if you get a wandering D792 once and then collapse it every day in the seconds right before downtime. The new signature for that hole would then spawn when the server is already down. Maybe it would work in the way that it would respawn in the same place like it does when it naturally collapses during downtime, instead of moving to another system as it normally should. Since wormholes always last slightly longer than their nominal lifespan, never less, the hole could be kept in place indefinitely as long as you close it every day before downtime.

But of course I never really cared enough to put that much effort into it I did have the same D792 in a c5 for three days in a row though, because it twice collapsed regularly during downtime.