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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-09-29 00:12:22 UTC
So I was about throwing Discovery Probe Scanners at moons. This one moon had an online pos guns and stuff. I was in a .4 system No aggression and + sec status. Only other person is local was docked at a station.

Well I threw a survey probe at the moon the pos was anchored at and before I knew the pos was shooting at me. Ship blapped I docked and reconfirmed the only person in local was still docked.

I thought towers couldn't attack neutrals due to sec status loss and last I check you get a sec hit for attacking neutrals in low sec still?

Did I miss something?
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite
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#2 - 2014-09-29 00:33:22 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
So I was about throwing Discovery Probe Scanners at moons. This one moon had an online pos guns and stuff. I was in a .4 system No aggression and + sec status. Only other person is local was docked at a station.

Well I threw a survey probe at the moon the pos was anchored at and before I knew the pos was shooting at me. Ship blapped I docked and reconfirmed the only person in local was still docked.

I thought towers couldn't attack neutrals due to sec status loss and last I check you get a sec hit for attacking neutrals in low sec still?

Did I miss something?


Depends on POS settings. I've had blue POS blap me due to settings.

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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#3 - 2014-09-29 00:39:58 UTC
You can set towers to shoot anything that's not 'blue'
or not +10
or neutral
bad security status
aggression timer
or just about anything you adjust settings for.

Hi sec may have some limits, but .4 and below wouldn't.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-09-29 00:50:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Milan Nantucket
Thanks. I was under the impression that if under normal player v player interaction a sec status loss would occur a pos wouldn't do anything on it's own. Last I checked this mechanic was before crimewatch. Now a player controlling the guns would but the sec drop is or was transferred to the player shooting the gun or agressing with the pos.

Null sec would shoot on site because there is no sec status drop from the action.

I might just try it on SISI and see what happens.
Armaros Liwet
Liwet Council
#5 - 2014-09-29 11:36:18 UTC
You can set a tower to shoot at anything reguardless of the sec level of the system.

Most people have towers in high sec set to only shoot war targets.
Low and Null towers are usually set to shoot none blues.

The sec of a system doesn't restrict your POS settings but most people get a little miffed if CONCORD blows up your POS for shooting someone it shouldn't.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2014-09-29 23:22:33 UTC
I realize this is slightly off topic but is it possible to mine moons in .4 now?

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True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#7 - 2014-09-30 00:37:22 UTC
More specifically, you're confusing high-sec with low/null. In hi-sec, a POS cannot shoot at you unless you are a war target. a POS gunner can't gun in high-sec either.

Low and Null sec are the same though and work a the others have described above.
Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-09-30 03:28:17 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
I realize this is slightly off topic but is it possible to mine moons in .4 now?

Its in patch notes somewhere.... same one where you dont need standings for empire.
Armaros Liwet
Liwet Council
#9 - 2014-09-30 09:02:33 UTC
True Sight wrote:
In hi-sec, a POS cannot shoot at you unless you are a war target. a POS gunner can't gun in high-sec either..


You can man the guns in high sec, I've defended a number of towers as gunner in high.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-09-30 10:52:22 UTC
Just mentioning, an unmanned POS will never pod someone.

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The Conference
#11 - 2014-09-30 18:12:49 UTC
Armaros Liwet wrote:
True Sight wrote:
In hi-sec, a POS cannot shoot at you unless you are a war target. a POS gunner can't gun in high-sec either..


You can man the guns in high sec, I've defended a number of towers as gunner in high.


I thought so, but haven't been in a POS in HS for ages so I wasn't sure. Good to know you can still target snipe! PEWPEW BIG GUNS!

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Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#12 - 2014-10-01 18:46:17 UTC
Slightly OT, but if the unmanned pos gun shoots someone in 0.4 is there then no standings loss anywhere? If manned, would the gunner take a standings loss in that same situation?

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Milan Nantucket
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-10-01 22:51:40 UTC
Maxpie wrote:
Slightly OT, but if the unmanned pos gun shoots someone in 0.4 is there then no standings loss anywhere? If manned, would the gunner take a standings loss in that same situation?

I havent tried on sisi but apparently no... not sure about if manned.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#14 - 2014-10-01 23:10:53 UTC
Milan Nantucket wrote:
Thanks. I was under the impression that if under normal player v player interaction a sec status loss would occur.....
I think the sec status of the POS went down after it killed you. Now it won't be able to jump into high sec without faction police/concord chasing it down.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-10-06 17:47:51 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
I realize this is slightly off topic but is it possible to mine moons in .4 now?

To provide a more definite answer, yes you can.

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Carebears on Fire
#16 - 2014-10-07 15:30:18 UTC
FWIW:

A POS can do anything automatically that does not invoke a CONCORD response with the exception of podding you (NPC AIs never pod, afaik). So in lowsec, a POS will most assuredly blap you if it gets the chance.

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