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And so, I got a bounty on me.

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Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#41 - 2014-09-29 15:59:54 UTC
Bounties are only effective as a form of griefing. Some players simply do not want a WANTED sign in front of their face.

Hey guys.
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2014-09-29 16:09:04 UTC
I once placed a bounty on myself, just to see what might happen. Thankfully it wasn't to many 0's... P

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-09-29 16:12:50 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
Bounties are only effective as a form of griefing. Some players simply do not want a WANTED sign in front of their face.



Please not this again.

Some people simply do not want to get shot in Halo multiplayer either so I guess that makes it griefing. Roll

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Hiply Rustic
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-09-29 16:15:50 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
Bounties are only effective as a form of griefing. Some players simply do not want a WANTED sign in front of their face.




But...don't you want to feel wanted?

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Solecist Project
#45 - 2014-09-29 16:19:15 UTC
Steppa Musana wrote:
Bounties are only effective as a form of griefing. Some players simply do not want a WANTED sign in front of their face.


You're such an obvious troll. Roll

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Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#46 - 2014-09-29 16:27:44 UTC
Scout Vyvorant wrote:
P.s. I admit I don't like stealing, if this person asked his ore back I would have given them back. Strangely he preferred to rage at me by placing a bounty.

You didn't steal the ore, you prevented it from being lost to a despawning container. That's all. The effort was put in to mine it, so losing it to a despawn would have been such a waste.

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Solecist Project
#47 - 2014-09-29 16:33:30 UTC
Summer Isle wrote:
Scout Vyvorant wrote:
P.s. I admit I don't like stealing, if this person asked his ore back I would have given them back. Strangely he preferred to rage at me by placing a bounty.

You didn't steal the ore, you prevented it from being lost to a despawning container. That's all. The effort was put in to mine it, so losing it to a despawn would have been such a waste.

Reminds me of this brilliant person who I canflipped ...
... and kept destroying my can with his stuff in it ...
... and then a friend came online and I flipped his stuff ....
... and the friend then took from my suspect can and put it into his own ...

... and the brilliant one then came in his stabber ...
... and blew up that can.


WOOHOOO CONCORD! :D


Then I learned, that killrights are given for destroying cans as well... ^_^

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#48 - 2014-09-29 17:49:04 UTC
Scout Vyvorant wrote:


P.s. I admit I don't like stealing, if this person asked his ore back I would have given them back. Strangely he preferred to rage at me by placing a bounty.



I was in Khanid Prime earlier today, someone had lost a cruiser in a war dec, right on the station undock point. I docked up, got a hauler, undocked and pulled all the loot from the wreck, docked up and traded it to the guy who owned the wreck. I didn't look to see what it was, I couldn't tell you what it was worth. I don't know, it wasn't mine.

I don't like to steal either, so I don't.

The point here is, if you feel guilty about stealing the guys Ore, contract it back to him. If you want a permission slip to do it, you don't need one in EVE. It's how the game works but it's on you.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#49 - 2014-09-29 18:08:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Renegade Heart
I used to enjoy placing bounties on lots of players, 100k isk, not to grief, but to cheaply (Oops) inform them that other players out there can interact with them, whether they want it or not. I got a lot of mails from guys asking me why I did it. Most often, I just explained that it was just some fun. One such player that mailed me, ended up getting 50 million isk from me, because I really liked him Big smile and wanted to help him out.

Now it's not a severe method of interacting with a player really. But despite my civility in the process, I quickly became aware that many players would be quick to call me all sorts of things. Really bad things.

Now I get my point across another way. I gank stuff instead! I still maintain my civil approach, and I still get mad cases where people like to harass me, but it's cool. I play a game, and I treat it as a game. Fun stuff.

I guess I am just saying, that those who think that bounties are there to scare new players are misguided. Lots can come from it. I've helped countless numbers of players with all sorts of things, and such interaction began with a fun 100k isk bounty.

Bounties are cool, even if seemingly useless at first sight. Oh, and last night I made 500 million isk from some dude who thought he'd be able to profit from a deal to share my bounty with me Cool Was a fun scam.

At the end of the day, it's content. I don't see why some people are making such a fuss about it!
Scout Vyvorant
Doomheim
#50 - 2014-09-29 18:16:14 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Scout Vyvorant wrote:


P.s. I admit I don't like stealing, if this person asked his ore back I would have given them back. Strangely he preferred to rage at me by placing a bounty.



I was in Khanid Prime earlier today, someone had lost a cruiser in a war dec, right on the station undock point. I docked up, got a hauler, undocked and pulled all the loot from the wreck, docked up and traded it to the guy who owned the wreck. I didn't look to see what it was, I couldn't tell you what it was worth. I don't know, it wasn't mine.

I don't like to steal either, so I don't.

The point here is, if you feel guilty about stealing the guys Ore, contract it back to him. If you want a permission slip to do it, you don't need one in EVE. It's how the game works but it's on you.



EvE is a game of choices.

His choice was to put a bounty on me, and because that i've choosen to keep the ore.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#51 - 2014-09-29 18:37:07 UTC
4.5bn.
Suck it.
BlkQueen
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2014-09-29 18:45:32 UTC  |  Edited by: BlkQueen
If you dont like stealing...then don't. I would have done exactly what he did, bountyied you just in the slim chance that you would care. But I have a better story. I stepped into a friends public chat room and asked if one of his alts was on. Some one said that he was waiting on me to s--- h-- d---. I told him to shove off and BOOM, 100 million isk bounty on me. I'm a carebear miner running around with a 100 mill isk bounty on my face. I didnt care after I realized that bounties mean nothing in this game, but I did get alot of questions when I tried to get into a new corp. It was kinda like having athletes foot...not fatal, mostly ignorable, but occasionally annoying.
Renegade Heart
Doomheim
#53 - 2014-09-29 19:21:29 UTC
BlkQueen wrote:
I didnt care after I realized that bounties mean nothing in this game, but I did get alot of questions when I tried to get into a new corp. It was kinda like having athletes foot...not fatal, mostly ignorable, but occasionally annoying.


One time I tried to enter a corp for awoxing purposes. The CEO was really concerned about my bounty. I insisted that it meant nothing, and that anybody could have a bounty.

I then placed 100k on his head to prove my point, hoping he would learn that having a bounty did not mean you were necessarily a bad person, because anybody could have one, including him!

The rage that ensued was worrying What?
BlkQueen
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2014-09-29 19:29:04 UTC
Renegade Heart wrote:
BlkQueen wrote:
I didnt care after I realized that bounties mean nothing in this game, but I did get alot of questions when I tried to get into a new corp. It was kinda like having athletes foot...not fatal, mostly ignorable, but occasionally annoying.


One time I tried to enter a corp for awoxing purposes. The CEO was really concerned about my bounty. I insisted that it meant nothing, and that anybody could have a bounty.

I then placed 100k on his head to prove my point, hoping he would learn that having a bounty did not mean you were necessarily a bad person, because anybody could have one, including him!

The rage that ensued was worrying What?


Ummm, damn. Bounties are like an infectious disease that everyone wants to share! LOL!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#55 - 2014-09-29 19:31:51 UTC
BlkQueen wrote:
Renegade Heart wrote:
BlkQueen wrote:
I didnt care after I realized that bounties mean nothing in this game, but I did get alot of questions when I tried to get into a new corp. It was kinda like having athletes foot...not fatal, mostly ignorable, but occasionally annoying.


One time I tried to enter a corp for awoxing purposes. The CEO was really concerned about my bounty. I insisted that it meant nothing, and that anybody could have a bounty.

I then placed 100k on his head to prove my point, hoping he would learn that having a bounty did not mean you were necessarily a bad person, because anybody could have one, including him!

The rage that ensued was worrying What?


Ummm, damn. Bounties are like an infectious disease that everyone wants to share! LOL!

no it's more like that hair that grows in funny places,
after a certain age, it's odd for it not to be there.

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Nevil Oscillator
#56 - 2014-09-29 19:45:18 UTC
Scout Vyvorant wrote:



EvE is a game of choices.

His choice was to put a bounty on me, and because that i've choosen to keep the ore.



If you do a lot of PVP bounties will boost your income but surely other factors decide whether you are going to attack another player ? It has no practical use other than saying well done.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#57 - 2014-09-29 19:53:00 UTC
Caviar Liberta wrote:
Something even more meaningless than bounties is kill rights on people with -10 sec status. Either people will shoot at them or run away from them.

Last time I sold a kill-right, the target's alt (probably) bought it, and the target purposely undocked in a shuttle.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#58 - 2014-09-29 20:04:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
Scout Vyvorant wrote:



EvE is a game of choices.

His choice was to put a bounty on me, and because that i've choosen to keep the ore.



If you do a lot of PVP bounties will boost your income but surely other factors decide whether you are going to attack another player ? It has no practical use other than saying well done.

Actually not really, more often than not the crap you pull out of their wreck will be more than the bounty.
Bounty payout is 20% of the market value on the hull so the payout is never a motivating factor unless the target is in a ludicrously expensive ship, though even then the ludicrously expensive killmail will take precedence over the bounty.

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Paranoid Loyd
#59 - 2014-09-29 20:12:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Bounty payout is 20% of the market value on the hull
Incorrect, the bounty payout is based on a percentage of the Total Loss, so the bounty received will always be considerably less than the actual Total Loss value. The base number we’re going for right now is 20%. This means that if you blow something up worth 100 million, then 20 million is paid out in bounty (or whatever is left in the bounty pool if less than 20 million).

^This is what is documented, although the actual payout does not really coincide with this in my experience.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#60 - 2014-09-29 20:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
I stand corrected, I believe my point still stands though I.e. bounty payout sucks...barring mtu's Blink

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