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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#1 - 2014-09-22 19:15:16 UTC
I am going spare here. I know that Google Isn't My Friend; everything that I enter into the wretched search engine turns up nothing for what I want.

So, believe me when I have said that I have looked. I have looked, and looked and I can't find. Yes, useless. I know.

Anyway, somewhere there must be a list, a spreadsheet or something of all of the Tech II blueprints with the components they require to be invented (and what from) and the components needed to make the final items.

Can someone kindly point me to such a list? I have tried looking in the stickie at the top but the link is dead.

Diolch yn fawr
Myfanwy

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-09-22 19:20:20 UTC
Errr...
Tech II blueprints don't require any components to be invented. Invention is BPC + data cores + interface (for the moment) = chance for T II BPC

Tech III are the ones that require components to reverse-engineer.
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#3 - 2014-09-22 19:32:39 UTC
Apologies for the terminology as I am dog tired.

Does not the process involve using up the Datacores? If so, they're a componment to be used at least in my book. This may a fault in my use of terminology and, if so, what term should I use?

The Data Interface is a catalyst and only requires a one time cost.

But for the moment I am looking for which blueprint copy makes which Tech II blueprint (and which stuff is consumed) and then what the Tech II blueprint needs.

Diolch
Myfanwy

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#4 - 2014-09-22 19:51:14 UTC
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-09-22 20:02:00 UTC
Try looking at a blueprint/item, then the T2 variation, then info the T2 variation and it will have an industry tag with the components you'll need to manufacture it.

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#6 - 2014-09-22 20:03:13 UTC
Thank you for this. I shall examine these over a glass or three of G&T and raise one to you.

Myfanwy

Pam:  I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why?
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#7 - 2014-09-22 20:04:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Myfanwy Heimdal
Drago Shouna wrote:
Try looking at a blueprint/item, then the T2 variation, then info the T2 variation and it will have an industry tag with the components you'll need to manufacture it.


Thanks, sometimes things aren't so obvious when they don't go from NAME Tech I to NAME Tech II.

Sorry for the lack of the likes; the uplifting upvotes have vanished here from my screen.

Myfanwy

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Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#8 - 2014-09-23 20:36:08 UTC
search for the T2 item here http://eve-industry.org/calc/ it will show you what is needed, alter the ME and it will alter the quantities needed too.
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#9 - 2014-09-23 21:54:41 UTC
Oh, diolch yn fawr, this is excellent stuff.

I've got a lot of number crunching to do in the days ahead it seems.

- Myfanwy

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Owain Redemptio
Wrong Place Warriors
#10 - 2014-09-25 11:58:57 UTC
For what it's worth, I knew what you meant in your OP. I was more or less looking for the same thing when I came across the thread.

I was looking for a tool (or something) that when I entered in a blue print name would tell me all the components, including the subsystems. For example, the ORCA. I know I can look at the Industry tab on the ORCA blueprint and see that it needs 36 Cargo Hold, which is another blue print with its own list of materials.

So, I *could* look at each blue print, try and transpose the numbers into a spreadsheet of my own (the font is hard for me to read and the unformatted numbers makes it way too easy to introduce errors), and do the math -- and I will. The new Science and Industry tab will provide the information, also. Select the blue print, set the number of runs and --- the materials are right there. But again, for me at least, the font is too small and the colors are hared to determine.

Haven't looked at the spreadsheets Steve Ronuken provided. Will do so later today.
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#11 - 2014-09-25 18:59:36 UTC
Oh, I would. They are exactly what I was looking for. A simple list of what produces what and uses up whichever in a series of Type IDs which one needs to decipher oneself.

Over the next few days (Real Life is interfering dammit) I will be expanding this information to work on but Steve resource is simply excellent and I am going to find this useful in determining profit per item and, as you suggest, to have the facility to drill down and see what is going to be required where.

Next up is the duration time for these jobs as it's no good if something makes a fortune per item but the manufacturing time is given on a geological scale.

- Myfanwy

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#12 - 2014-09-25 20:12:54 UTC
Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:
Oh, I would. They are exactly what I was looking for. A simple list of what produces what and uses up whichever in a series of Type IDs which one needs to decipher oneself.

Over the next few days (Real Life is interfering dammit) I will be expanding this information to work on but Steve resource is simply excellent and I am going to find this useful in determining profit per item and, as you suggest, to have the facility to drill down and see what is going to be required where.

Next up is the duration time for these jobs as it's no good if something makes a fortune per item but the manufacturing time is given on a geological scale.

- Myfanwy



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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#13 - 2014-09-25 20:22:40 UTC
Steve, diolch.

The level of work and support you do for the community is certainly appreciated here. Thanks ever so much for the link, it will be used shortly over the next few days.

- Myfanwy

Pam:  I wonder what my name means in Welsh?Nessa: Why?
Domino Vyse
FeedingMachine
Good Sax
#14 - 2014-09-29 14:26:04 UTC
A fellow welshy :)