EVE General Discussion

Also dittoing the people who said you can ignore CODE posters. CODE talks a big game, and clearly loves doing their little RP schtick, but they're just not that important in the day to day life of mining players. I know of singular lowsec corporations that do more to impact mining possibilities than the whole of CODE and the 'new order' drones do.

CODE. is not a high sec pvp alliance or group, is just an organized ganking squad which target mainly mining ships and sometimes freighters / orcas, and by doing this it keeps an overwhelmingly positive K/L ratio, both in number of ship destroyed and in isk destroyed vs lost against the concord retaliation.

If you want to see a high sec pvp alliance you might want to check RvB - Red Federation and Blue Republic, or even the merc corp the Marmite Collective, as my definition of High Sec pvp strictly consider the fact of being at war with what you kill. A suicide can happen, but shouldn't be your winning tactic. Freight club is at war against their high sec target, CODE. is not or at least it's very rare.

In low sec the concept of "gank" doesn't exist, if you jumped in 0.4 or lower, you know what you are going to get.

It's not protection.

You are not being protected from getting ganked by anyone else for paying the fee,
there are people who deliberately only gank those who bought a "mining permit".

It just makes certain people look away while you keep mining afk anyway.


Also: Great portrait.

I'll explain you something about High Sec, CODE. and about why I'm a professional forum alt.

Paying CODE. because you are a miner is the simplest way to get targeted during your operations, as you just flagged yourself as a harmless target, who pilot a harmless ship that can be killed in a whim by two catalysts, and that has not hardened the F up (HTFU from now on) enough to fight back or move to low sec. In short, the perfect ganking target in their eyes.

As our CODE. friend said, his alliance is not the whole network of high sec, as the members of this Role Play group that goes by the name of New Order of High Sec can be anywhere, in any corp and in any alliance. Also, as hinted, it's a network, and nothing forbid them to tell someone else to go and hunt you down, or simply log their alts in some NPC corp to gank you. They say they wont do that, but after all the isk doublers in Jita also promised you to double yours isk. Scamming is an ingame activity, as corp theft an awoxing is.

This game has locator agents, and once you flagged yourself it's a matter of a few isk to find where you are mining. And this is why I'm a professional forum alt, I can say what I want, against who I want, always trying to be respectfull and possibly constructive, while keeping the lowest in game profile to continue my high sec activities with the least intereferences.

As wanna be high sec industrialist, (my) wars are bad for (my) business, but (their) wars are good for (my) business

Got it Scout. BTW dont think this is my ingame character. I know a lot more about EVE and these forums then I let on, but I digress.

You say your a highsec industrialist, that is my agenda as well. I have been doing it on my own for years. No wars just mine and manufacture. If your corp ever recruits please contact me by mail here on forums.

The "mining permit" is a necessity out of a GM decision based on something that is not actually being done anymore.

The reason why it has to be in the bio, is because it's an easy way for them checking
who actually bought a permit and who didn't. It's not really a bright idea, but it gets the job done anyway.


Several bookmarks in each direction. Up, down, left, right. That way, no matter which direction you are heading
while orbitting, you can pick a bookmark that is close to your current alignment. The more bookmarks in each
direction, and the better you spread them out, the faster you'll go to warp, obviously. I suggest an orbitting speed
of around 50%-60% of max speed.

Ships go to warp at 75% max speed and within a 5 degree angle towards the destination.

An alternative is to have an alt orbit your ship,
which can web you into warp one or two seconds after you initiated it.

Please remember though, that no matter what you do ...
... without your attention, nothing is going to work.


You're welcome. :)

*kinks* (:

A little bit over two years ago the whole Highsec community elected James 315 into office as our Supreme Protector of Highsec. As a New Order Agent I act in his name. So you see it has nothing to do with protection money, it's actually a tax.

People will always tell you that you make yourself a target by displaying the permit in your bio. We also don't force you to put it into your bio, how could we? We just encourage you to do it as it shows all New Order Agents that you are a legal miner. The fact is if you don't have one it makes you a target for us. As you can see from the linked killboard stats, the probability to be ganked by us is much (much much much) higher. There is virtually no one else ganking miners in Highsec.

Also as the role playing community will confirm, we are actually not role playing (It's what they say, they have some silly rules about what is RP and what isn't).

In the end it is your choice. Are you listening to hard facts and numbers or to the words of a few rebels who do more talking then shooting and no one has ever heard from?

Translation:

"A collaboration between Hisec gankbears, Pirate Roleplayers, and some deep-pocketed individuals who funded the whole shebang because 'hisec mining is bad...hell hisec is bad' resulted in James315's website and the creation of CODE and CODE-aligned corps. We are content, just like the miners and haulers we gank, the only difference being that we are Rats that pop up unexpectedly...like NPC rats but with a good PR guy...and they are "destructible content". Your 10 mil and the free PR you give us by adding us to your bio don't protect you at all, and we don't even claim it will. Have a nice day."

I tend to think of CODE as "audience participation LARPing". Harmless, easy to avoid, and occasionally amusing.

they do, we did, and James 315 is the Supreme Protector of Halaima, Founder and Father of the New Order of Highsec, Saviour of Highsec, Penman of the Code, Agent-in-Chief of the New Order, Knight Grand Master of the Knights of the New Order, Architect of the Revolution, Exhalted Khan of Kamio, Lord of Osmon, Executor of New Order Logistics, Honourary CONCORD captain, Master of the Righteous Brapelille Crusade, Undefeated PVP virtuoso triple black-belt, Beloved of the People of Otela, Splendid and Respected Purser of the New Order, &c., &c., not "tyrant of everything". that's not even a real title. you're correct in that it would be most outrageously and nauseously pretentious.