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Language Chat Channel Consolidation With Oceanus

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Solecist Project
#221 - 2014-09-28 09:51:07 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
Obsidian Hawk wrote:
Ok so I told a few people to tell their respective chat channels that this was happening. They ignored it. Sadly enough you can post a huge issue and most of the people dont care it seems like. Well my guess is in a few days you will see a lot of player created chat channels for languages.

So everyone do that now start the transition.


The call on the Spanish channel has brought 3 more people here, and I will keep asking to post here if even in Spanish.

If nothing changes, then we'll have to object the change and ask for the return of those channels.

BTW, has someone contacted the CSM? Is there any CSM who speaks a non-supported language and can understand what those channels mean to our communities?
Spanish posts will only get removed.
As the majority of people here do not speak spanish
and as it's against the forum rules not to post english,
it would simply be a complete waste of time.

At least have them use http://translate.google.com !


Anyhow ... still only page 11. Either the rest of the people do not care enough,
or those people who care fail at properly rallying the masses.


Which one is it?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#222 - 2014-09-28 10:32:34 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

Anyhow ... still only page 11. Either the rest of the people do not care enough,
or those people who care fail at properly rallying the masses.

Which one is it?


It's just human behavior. What they have now is always 100x more important than what they will not have tomorrow.
miiral
#223 - 2014-09-28 10:52:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Miiral
-1, CCP

While I can relate to the pain moderating all those language channels, you're trying to take the easy route and doing so, erasing a big part from the game community. Honestly, you're just creating new problems and shifting workload to other channels, official and player created.

Somebody should link here the official list of the CCP's supported game languages, CCP Falcon provided only in-game picture about channels. Or do I have to assume those are the same as current supported client UI languages ?

And could somebody post a link to the dictionary of E-UNI as it seems to be - according to the linked picture - in the category of officially supported help language (nothing personal, E-UNI Blink).
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#224 - 2014-09-28 10:58:14 UTC
I can see how employing people to moderate in languages they do not speak or are not fluent in could cause problems and might seem like a bad idea, from a business perspective...
One cannot ban based on Google translate after all.

But (speaking English as a first language and therefore with no declared interest) I still believe that this solution is a worse idea.

Perhaps there is a middle way; putting "not a CCP moderated chat" in the MotD and recruiting some player moderators from the existing userbase for example; but removing the signpost which is the channel listing is not the way to go.

Please reconsider this decision.
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#225 - 2014-09-28 11:09:24 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
I can see how employing people to moderate in languages they do not speak or are not fluent in could cause problems and might seem like a bad idea, from a business perspective...
One cannot ban based on Google translate after all.

But (speaking English as a first language and therefore with no declared interest) I still believe that this solution is a worse idea.

Perhaps there is a middle way; putting "not a CCP moderated chat" in the MotD and recruiting some player moderators from the existing userbase for example; but removing the signpost which is the channel listing is not the way to go.

Please reconsider this decision.



Also, of this post, there are 225 posts in this thread. 225 posts x 15(cost of a months sub)=3375$$$

Seems like a decent enough paycheck for someone that would only moderate said channels

Just saying
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#226 - 2014-09-28 11:37:25 UTC
Mihnea Tepes wrote:
ISD Ezwal wrote:
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!

The Rules:
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Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.


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Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.


we are paying you and giving you your salary, thats the fact and you are doing your worse


Why haven't you applied to be an ISD volunteer in the past few years to alleviate the problems in the language channels?
flakeys
Doomheim
#227 - 2014-09-28 11:56:53 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:



Anyhow ... still only page 11. Either the rest of the people do not care enough,
or those people who care fail at properly rallying the masses.


Which one is it?



The change will mostly hurt/impact newbs hence the verry low response .

It's a bad day when a bittervet , who at this point wouldn't care much if eve did shut down tomorrow , that he feels more concerned about the newbro's then CCP and most other people who still like to play for that matter.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Migui X'hyrrn
No More Dramas Only Llamas
#228 - 2014-09-28 12:20:05 UTC
So two days and CCP has not had the decence to alter the MOTD of those channels to properly inform people. Because this is not on the patch notes either.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-oceanus

Darkblad
Doomheim
#229 - 2014-09-28 12:37:10 UTC
It is. Subtly phrased as in the OP
Patchnotes wrote:
Chat channel consolidation and renaming.

NPEISDRIP

miiral
#230 - 2014-09-28 12:51:21 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
It is. Subtly phrased as in the OP
Patchnotes wrote:
Chat channel consolidation and renaming.


REALLY?Ugh
Carber
The Suicide Kings
Deepwater Hooligans
#231 - 2014-09-28 12:51:34 UTC
Noo Don't close them )=.

It's sad there is some people like that,, that is forceing you to close them,, I suggest its time to pull out the dusty old BAN HAMMER: and show them that CCP love their community! By punishing the evil doers!
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#232 - 2014-09-28 13:24:37 UTC
CCP just let me know that:

Quote:
We are contacting you to remind you that according to our records you have 6 days left on your non-recurring subscription to EVE Online.


You know what, CCP ?

Nope... Nope.. Nope.. and ehm.. this one? Also Nope.


Buh Bye :)


(And Nope.. my stuff? You can not have it)


Darkblad
Doomheim
#233 - 2014-09-28 13:46:41 UTC
Naburi NasNaburi wrote:
Buh Bye :)
You've still got 6 days left to join some of us at the monument next to the monument.

NPEISDRIP

Syah Kircheis
Mini Crescent Moon
#234 - 2014-09-28 16:46:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Syah Kircheis
I think you don't know what are you going to do.

Do you really know what will happen after closing official language channel ?

Don't do it.

This is more important than game play(balance change, model change etc ) to some people. This issue cannot be underestimated.
AndRe GomeL
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#235 - 2014-09-28 17:03:07 UTC
я против закрытия языковых каналов и я выражаю свой протест-скажем нет этому решению.
I am against closing language channels, and I express my protest, say no to that decision.
Mei Ji Yang
CLOUD TEMPLE
Pandemic Horde
#236 - 2014-09-28 17:03:59 UTC
This is a really bad idea. New korean players come to Korean chat to get help and we all provide help to them. This would most likely result in more korean players quitting. Besides the community that the korean people had in the Korean chat would be severely hurt by this move. There might not be visible impacts at first. But I think the game play experience of many non English speakers would be hurt. I think it would be a good idea to not impement this, but even afterwards it would be most appreciated if the language channels are revived.
Xin Un-Duro
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#237 - 2014-09-28 17:08:26 UTC
0.o On the most dificult game to learn, you decide close language channels in game ... , very smart. eny1 think on put a text on MOTD chat somethink like .. "NO SUPPORTED CHANNEL " .... sure not, better close all, good luck losing players, then put a free ship for new accounts .... .

you realy moderate help channels ??
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#238 - 2014-09-28 17:14:34 UTC
Spread the word! Enter all channels and share this message:

Warning: CCP will shut down this and all other language channels on September 30th. Link: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5045392#post5045392 Please spread the word and protest at the thread. Defend your community!
MarekCZE
The Chosen 0nes
#239 - 2014-09-28 17:14:51 UTC  |  Edited by: MarekCZE
Dont worry people... soon CCP will have to sell company because debt. For now shares rising but its only fake made by them.
They making every expansion more and more stupid changes because they are out of ideas so instead of evolution we have decadence. Its CCP politics to crush this project and suck money from customers as much as it is possible in shortest time no matter what. Cuz policy here is clear... be to see... so stop crying... check your payments off and this is best weapon you have. Show them with money whos BOSS and just stop your payments.
They never fully understand what they developed and who are people playing it.
They will rather spend time to lie in your face than do something about it.
CCP customer support what should be help desk is basicaly place where they send you somewhere where sun dont shine cuz since they dont have any logs even if they say logs shows nothing what is corect cuz they realy dont have logs at all.
Far from support/helpdesk.
If i was in CCP i would make audit to see whats going on and invest more money into this project instead of developing others projects what was total fail cuz CCP is all about fail. What do you expect from someone whos living on Island.
Xispa Alborada
Oscuro Amanecer
#240 - 2014-09-28 17:22:20 UTC
Please dont close spanish channel, think in new players, they are lost enough at the start.....