Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This part concerns me.

To me, this sounds like an exaggerated reference to small group activity, which null has the reputation of squashing.

I feel that player satisfaction in any area needs to be significant.
I feel that solo and small group activities must feel rewarding, and be perceived as not demanding a large group's support to exist.

Does that mean a small group dominates a larger one? Hardly.
I feel that it means that opportunities must be easy to find, to annoy and harass larger groups, without strategic threat or implication.

I didn't say anything about difference. The differences and areas of interaction are obvious.

I said gray area. That is to say, areas of gameplay thousands on TQ enjoy that don't fall into either the 'bloc null sov' bucket or the 'high sec mission runner' bucket.

That a sov fix should include gameplay that amounts to more than collusion by neccesity (by renting or membership) of the blue donut. Means by which those players can participate and have an impact.



Which this excellently lays out.

This is why I say so many in null are just unable to think outside the box. They simply cannot imagine different gameplay without jumping to illogical conclusions and avoiding good discussion of new mechanics. They are locked in, indoctrinated.

They've been slugging through a system that frankly sucks for so long (and succeeded at it) they are, knowingly or not, offended and reject ideas to improve it in any way that would change it from THEIR game.




Oh shut up. We can discuss topics and ideas or you can try to attack my character. One belongs here, the other is trolling.

I say this with complete honesty, I've likely been playing this game longer than anyone in this thread. And I've done it all. Years upon years in null, through all the most transformative years, and years upon years in many other places.

And while I may not have all the answers, I do know that the current interdependency of null blocs has arisen from ease and speed of travel for the largest of fleets.



If CCP should be thinking about this, they need to also consider all the ways by which simple mechanics shifts can be circumvented. As baltec pointed out, you can just clone jump the pilot. If his timer isn't out, he can move his medical clone and pod jump. And if you were to try and nerf both of those things, you'd just hop to a different character on your account / different account.

Don't get me wrong, it's a step in the right direction if it's true. But it needs to be a well considered if it's going to amount to anything that changes the status-quo in any meaningful way.

The more I think about it they should just delete cyno travel entirely and increase the agility of caps by 30%. Travel isn't to be avoided, its one of the main content creators in the game.

The best fights happen on gates on the way to your destination. And many times end up with you never making it to your destination. I think cap warfare could use a bit of this.

Its not speed its the mechanics. The mechanics force us to have large territories, they force us into vast fleets to attack enemy sov and defend our own and they also make it impossible for anyone new to compete with us. This upcoming change to capital power projection is going to change nothing.

I have to agree with the idea that nerfs to power projection will just be worked around. We'll stage capitals all around and run to them in interceptors. Buy more capital alts. Stock more isotopes. Whatever.

Their needs to be more work in getting the most out of smaller territories, and disincentives to holding vast territories.


Something everyone should keep in mind about simple ways of making sov easier to take, like less structure hp or no timers;

If you nerf this down to something a "small group" can deal with, it will be something a single FC in CFC or PL could do on a whim. If you make it too easy, entire regions will be blitzed by a bunch of bombers or Ishtars.

Wow. You really don't get it.

One thing that needs to be adressed is ganking. It is currently safer to mine and rat in null then in high-traffic hisec. Just as in w-space in 0.0 the major danger to anyone should be other players. There are two things that needs to be adressed right away: Hellbubbles on gates and the use of local chat as an intel-tool.

1. Limit the number of anchorable bubbles to 1 around gates.

2. Delay local by 5 minutes after entering system.

Null shouldn't be about crap like blitzing in bombers and ishtars. That won't create much content. The balance between sov being too hard and too easy to take won't be easy to find, especially considering how much CCP enjoyes to overnerf things



Well that's exactly the effect it should have :P If you can do it then fine, but it will still be harder and require more work around if you wanna have operational fleet at several fronts.

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Nerfing high sec incursions to lower income would make sense and slower the inflation. It may also force more groups into low/null sec incursions.

Another interesting thing would be adding cap to number of systems alliance can hold. Now people will want to say that it can be worked around. Which is truth, but in cases of biggest renting empires it will require more people to run, more chances of backstabbing and more drama which...this usually makes things moving :)

Which is always better then Nullsec Cartels spewing even more terrible ideas. Purely based on securing their status quo, enabling the blue doughnut, and boring the **** out of their line members to the point of unsubbing and playing something else...

Well established & large alliances can easily absorb the costs & there are always sadists ready to take on the awful tasks of sorting this stuff out. The only people this ever affects is the smaller & not-so-established groups.

@Adrie
The "Suggestions" you speak about do nothing to fix the current state of nullsec...

That 70% loss is space is completely bullshit, as we both know that'll be filled with CFC entities anyways. Take your "alliance" as a beautiful example. Mittens didn't have 100% control over the former alliances, so he told your "leadership" to drop your alliances and form a new one under his direct control.

Similar will happen again!

Enjoy your.........."freedom"