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Why Amamake?
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Zondrail
Formic Hive
#1 - 2011-12-12 04:58:43 UTC
I've been a low-sec dweller for a bit now, trying out the low-sec pvp life and getting locked out of high-sec space.

The 1v1 fights I have gotten into have been amazing. The 1v5 I've gotten into where I won or took out a few before I went down were absolutely epic and unbeatable in terms of a gaming experience.

But... things are just too dry. I thought that Crucible would cause a surge of players and therefore provide me with more targets, but it doesn't seem to have done that. I just don't have the time to fly around for an hour or two just hoping to run into a good fight.

I've heard/seen that Amamake gets a lot of PVP action. I'm sure it's not all perfect solo fights and such, but at least the fact that there are targets and people are getting blown up is a good sign. I could also go and get my ass handed to me over and over (most of the top people on Battleclinic have most of their kills in Amamake).

So my main question is... why Amamake? Why has it become what it has become?

Beyond that... anyone who is familiar with the area and how things tend to go who wants to share... I would love to hear.

Thanks.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-12-12 05:04:22 UTC
Zondrail wrote:
I've heard/seen that Amamake gets a lot of PVP action. I'm sure it's not all perfect solo fights and such...


Understatement of the year right here, folks.
Rharkon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-12-12 05:07:37 UTC
I'm still new to provide an educated answer, but all I can guess at is that it's been the community-designated place for PvP.

We can also question why the Goldshire Inn on the realm of Moonguard is a central hub for RPers in World of Warcraft, but the only real explanation is...well, it just is.
Zondrail
Formic Hive
#4 - 2011-12-12 05:11:53 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Zondrail wrote:
I've heard/seen that Amamake gets a lot of PVP action. I'm sure it's not all perfect solo fights and such...


Understatement of the year right here, folks.


Thanks? Not sure what your contribution to the conversation is. Are you saying Amamake is a magical 1v1 land? Or are you saying that it's full of gank groups and imbalance... just like the rest of EVE.

It's apparently got targets... which is what I'm concerned with. I assume it has large groups to be dealt with like any other place... move on.
nate555
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-12 05:54:16 UTC
I believe it is the land of the pandemic legion
Pinkfluff
Lone Wolf Supply Co.
#6 - 2011-12-12 06:07:39 UTC
Interesting. I had my first encounter with a pirate in Amamake when I started in EVE years ago. Might just be the area. If I remember right there was a high sec system a few jumps and a fair bit of traffic through the area.
I likegirls
The Terrifying League Of Dog Fort
Deepwater Hooligans
#7 - 2011-12-12 06:16:50 UTC
It is because 10 years ago I promised the first pod pilot to get 100,000 pod kills in Amamake that I would give them 1,000,000,000,000 isk.

You better start catching up.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2011-12-12 06:36:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
A few things make Amamake fairly special...

- It has A LOT of stations to base out of. In fact, I think Amamake has THE most stations of any system (someone may want to fact-check me on that). More than that, it has quite a few moons to erect POSs at.

- It is right next to major Faction Warfare "rally systems" (Auga, Dal, Sesiede(sp?), and Vard)

- It is a "border system" between high-sec and low-sec.

- There are only two ways leading into low-sec in the general area... both of which pass through Amamake. The "short route" being from Osoggur to Amamake directly and the other one starting from the system Dammalin(sp?) and eventually leading to Amamake.

- Many low-sec "pipes" end up in Amamake, making it a major "flash-point" for gang/fleet activity.

- It is more or less in the "middle" of Empire space, making it ideal for passing capital fleets and storing capital assets.

- Due to it's reputation, many wannabe pirate corps try base around there to "test their meddle." Very few actually survive though (they either get crushed by the pirate corps already established there or they get smacked around one too many times by the local militia pilots).

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nate555 wrote:
I believe it is the land of the pandemic legion


Pandemic Legion is only the latest "major" organization to set up shop in Amamake. Before it was BANE (which still maintains SOME presence but cannot operate like it used to due to PL.

How did you Veterans start?
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-12 06:43:03 UTC
Zondrail wrote:
It's apparently got targets... which is what I'm concerned with. I assume it has large groups to be dealt with like any other place... move on.


The level of per capita ***.gotry in Amamake is astounding. The guys with the high BC rank (or at least one or two that I remember) would camp the school stations with carriers undocked, if they got into trouble, store the ship and warp their pod off. Then dock the carrier.

Incredibly lame, but still valid game mechanic.
Billee Baub
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-12-12 06:50:34 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Zondrail wrote:
It's apparently got targets... which is what I'm concerned with. I assume it has large groups to be dealt with like any other place... move on.


The level of per capita ***.gotry in Amamake is astounding. The guys with the high BC rank (or at least one or two that I remember) would camp the school stations with carriers undocked, if they got into trouble, store the ship and warp their pod off. Then dock the carrier.

Incredibly lame, but still valid game mechanic.



Valid game mechanic yes, but ultimately I would say the majority of people just laugh and save their respect for other pilots who take risks. Carrier docking is laughable at best and proves nothing other than someone can exploit a hole in the game.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-12-12 07:00:47 UTC
Amamake is a hive of scum and villainy.

Being the collision zone between faction warfare, and the fact its garnered the reputation (why jita? because its where everyone goes).
Ephia
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-12-12 10:31:16 UTC
It was originally because it is on a short cut through low sec between Amarr/Jita trade hubs and Rens
Takeshi Yamato
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2011-12-12 10:40:07 UTC
Amamake used to be a relatively high traffic system. Haulers came through transporting goods. Pirates settled in and eventually the traffic dwindled. By then it had already established a certain reputation as a lowsec pvp hotspot.
Ralnik
Mutineers
#14 - 2011-12-12 11:48:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralnik
Amamake was "once" one of the best places to get good fights as a low sec dweller. I learned to PVP on my old account in and around Amamake. I lived in Dammalin as a fresh noob, me and a few friends can flipped miners til we attracted war decs from people we couldn't fight as 2 month old noobs. Pirate

We moved to low sec and then I've lived pretty much no where else (I live Caldari low sec and day trip to Syndicate now). Bosboger, Lulm, Gulmorogod, Olfeim and Amamake were awesome hunting grounds back then and Amamake was like the wild west. It was fun and the place had a reputation which brought constant influx of people into it..

Part of the reason it was popular is because it was the closest low sec to Rens which is the largest Minmatar trade hub and probably the second largest trade hub aside from Jita. (at least it was back then) It was also the low sec path for the fastest way from Minmatar space (around Rens) to Gallente space, as well as low sec route to Amarr space.

Sadly the fun dried up with blob corps moved in to do nothing but camp the gates 24/7 which also resulted in killing the opportunity for "good fights" because they would blob everything in the top belt. Between FW blobs and local pie blob corps they all pretty much killed what Amamake "used" to be. Now days it's probably same as it was a year or so ago when I last visited, station humpers & gate campers that dock up the second any threat comes knocking,.

Pretty much same thing happened to Old Man Star and Tama which were two other well known hot beds of low sec.. Each is close to a trade hub and have a high sec boarders. I think Gallente and maybe even Caldari FW blobs ruined OMS as they lived next door and pretty much Jesus blobbed any good fights to hell and back.. Tama I think it was always a bit station campy being it only has a single station that kinda kicks you out. I never spent much time there prior to doing Caldari FW for a while.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#15 - 2011-12-12 13:41:31 UTC
Things change, the blobby corps come and go. And of course, the blob doesn't always win. In any case, amamake isn't all that bad atm. Just heretic army hanging out there and they aren't that big, maybe 10 guys on at any given time. Generally less than that. In general though, the best places for decent little fights are in low sec systems near trade hubs. Amamake is the best known of them, but it certainly isn't the only or necessarily even the best spot.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#16 - 2011-12-14 02:41:26 UTC
Because even today a lameass remote sebo pirate camps can get 100 kills off no scout idiots on autopilot through Low Sec.

Lesson 1 Dont auto pilot

Lesson 1 Dont Blind jump into lowsec

Lesson 1 Dont haul in Badgers

Lesson 1 Makke is camped ALWAYS.

Lesson 1 I watch to much Archer.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Jones Bones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-12-14 03:12:29 UTC
It is an amazing place to come ride your bike.

I sell bikes in Amamake, please come visit!
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-12-14 05:50:46 UTC
I<3Amamake.

I'm back!
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#19 - 2011-12-14 05:53:39 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Zondrail wrote:
It's apparently got targets... which is what I'm concerned with. I assume it has large groups to be dealt with like any other place... move on.


The level of per capita ***.gotry in Amamake is astounding. The guys with the high BC rank (or at least one or two that I remember) would camp the school stations with carriers undocked, if they got into trouble, store the ship and warp their pod off. Then dock the carrier.

Incredibly lame, but still valid game mechanic.


Forums ate my post!

Have a cyno covert ops w/probe launcher preposition some combat probes around the area. Now bump the carrier off station while the BC pilot is busy with your bait drake/dual rep myrm, etc. Point the carrier. Watch for obligatory lol in local.

Now light cyno or have your gank fleet jump in. Station humping *** will forget all about 1v1 when he sees the cyno or local spike. But alas! He can't dock, warp, or jump his carrier anymore. He will either logoffski hoping you didn't bring enough dps (doesn't work anymore and he's dumb for not reading the patch notes), or he will stay and fight. Either way, you should win this one, unless he also has a cyno and a bigger fleet on standby.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Wensley
Matari Exodus
#20 - 2011-12-14 10:18:08 UTC
Amamake is small enough to be able to d-scan the whole system from pretty much anywhere with in it, making it ideal for hunting.

Amamake is three jumps from Rens

Amamake has nine L4 agents and one L5 agent and is pretty much the lowsec home of Brutor tribe.

Minmatar pirates are just better :P
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