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Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#1 - 2014-09-27 14:50:07 UTC
I have tried a number of in game options over the few years I've been in game in order to make ISK. I only have the 1 account with 3 toons and wanted to work towards paying for my sub with plex.

Firstly is that realistic with 1 account and 3 toons at the current plex prices?

Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.

Of course in real terms I would need to earn above the cost of a plex in order to play for stuff in game. Ships, Modules, Skills etc

Any ideas/help would be appreciated.
Marc Durant
#2 - 2014-09-27 14:59:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Marc Durant
- Missioning: steady income but quite grindy. realistic income once you get a proper ship 40-60 mil/h. When done in semi-afk mode your income plummets but it can be done while you're doing other stuff
- high sec combat exploration: still grindy of sorts but it's more diverse. Erratic income, 0-200 mil/h
- low sec data/relic exploration: pretty much the same as high sec combat with extra danger, and possibly time wasted, on top
- mining: terribly boring but can be done (half)afk, income is low but then so is effort. ~15 mil/h
- T1 production: quite probably negative income
- trading: requires lots of attention, income depends on amount invested and how smart you are
- scamming: terribly boring but hilarious when it works. 0-unlimited income depending on your scam and how many stupids you run into


There's more options of course but that would make a super long list. I myself do high sec combat exploration on an alt, it's soothing but varied enough to keep it interesting. If you do it right then 250-500 mil a day is fairly average.

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Dave Stark
#3 - 2014-09-27 15:05:51 UTC
if you can make 27m isk per day, you can plex an account.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#4 - 2014-09-27 15:07:04 UTC
L4 missions should pay for it no problem. 50 mil for 3 hours a day on work days would net 3 bil a month. That's 3 PLEX plus 600mil, then whatever you earn on weekends.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#5 - 2014-09-27 15:10:52 UTC
Doing PI with every character is a simple almost time investment free additional income. Check what the T2 production uses up and/or what is used as POS fuel. Those are always in demand.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#6 - 2014-09-27 15:17:24 UTC
PI on all ur toons and then even 1-2 missions a day depending on which ones they are will pay for your game time easy enough.

So no your not out of range, you might be out of skill points as such right off the bat or in the long run you might feel your only working for a plex especially early on and not have much left over but with that many hours to play a day youll be fine.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2014-09-27 15:28:33 UTC
One important thing to remember: Have fun!

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#8 - 2014-09-27 15:48:12 UTC
Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities.

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Rumbaldi
Tannhauser C-Beam
Lux Collective
#9 - 2014-09-27 15:52:52 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities.


I've jumped from thing to thing in that time, never really concentrating in one area, Ive made ISK in most areas but now I am specifically wanting to concentrate in one area in order to make enough to plex, but without getting the 800m (and more) as the sole thing that I do in game, therefore was just seeking opinions on other peoples best methods.
Angeal MacNova
Holefood Inc.
Warriors of the Blood God
#10 - 2014-09-27 16:06:18 UTC
Yeah, key is to do more than one thing.

Station trading takes time to get established but it doesn't actually require your time every minute of every day once you skill into it. Just need to take 5 to 10 minutes once a day to make adjustments. The rest of the time you just let it do its thing.

PI, once set up, will require you to haul materials to market once every few days. The rest of the time you just let it do its thing.

That still leaves you with time to do something that will require active participation from your character.

Missions/Incursions

Mining/Manufacturing

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Take your pick. Keep in mind that the isk from missions is an accumulation of bounties/insignias, loot, salvage, reward & bonus, and LP. Also keep in mind that if we are talking about what gets you isk into your wallet, it will take time to convert the loot, salvage, insignias, and LP bought items to isk via the market. Time that is often ignored in the process of calculating isk/hour of running missions making the isk/hour stated an over estimation.

As for mining and manufacturing, the trick is to do both. Mine, set up a manufacturing job, then go back to mining while the job does it's thing. If you mine faster than the jobs get done, just set up another job. Eventually you will get to a point where the jobs will finish in time to receive the next stack of materials.

If you get into mining/manufacturing, then the PI you get into could be to make POS fuel. You'll just have to mine some ice.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#11 - 2014-09-27 16:37:22 UTC
You should be fine with that amount of time. As other stated, L4s or Incursions will give you plenty enough to plex one account and then some(I do that for my account as well and still have enough to keep a personal small POS running and keep my savings account division padded). Last I checked, PI is a little slow at first, but picks up nicely after a while and makes a great addition to your other sources of income. Even mining (especially now) is doable for that sort of time block for a plex a month.

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Melvin Coulter
Tactical Feed.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-09-27 17:46:58 UTC
join nullsec alliance do ded sites profit

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Khalm Hasal
#13 - 2014-09-28 00:03:54 UTC
That is enough time per day to plex with trading. You won't be Abidal at that amount in-game, but you can easily plex with three hours a day in-game.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#14 - 2014-09-28 00:19:31 UTC
you can easily solo a c3 and make around 200m an hour. so in 4 hours u have your plex

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Jace Sarice
#15 - 2014-09-28 04:18:05 UTC
What do you enjoy doing? Educate yourself enough about it to be able to plex doing it. Any other path will start to feel like a job for you.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#16 - 2014-09-28 05:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
A other said.
L4s or incursions are best for steady isk income in Hisec. In lowsec or null there are hacking/relic sites, lowsec clone soldiers or faction warfare.

But holly grail of isk making is trade. But for that you need at least 10-15B (or more) for the start. And then, after you will discover your best trade strategy, you can earn 1 Plex a day without a problem or without too much "effort".

In fact, You will earn so much isk, that you will not be worrying about your game-time as you will be sitting on a pile of PLEX worth of several years of game-time...

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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-28 05:36:40 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Rumbaldi wrote:
I have tried a number of in game options over the few years I've been in game in order to make ISK. I only have the 1 account with 3 toons and wanted to work towards paying for my sub with plex.

Firstly is that realistic with 1 account and 3 toons at the current plex prices?

Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.

Of course in real terms I would need to earn above the cost of a plex in order to play for stuff in game. Ships, Modules, Skills etc

Any ideas/help would be appreciated.


wormholes. c5 - c6 hack sites in marauder or tengu - relic disassembler, data field, server bank

250 mil - 1bn per hour solo, depending on luck finding sites.

requires knowledge on how to find sites efficiently, how to navigate wormhole chains, marauder 4 or tengu 5, hacking/scanning/salvaging to 4 at least, siggy or tripwire.
Dave Stark
#18 - 2014-09-28 06:54:20 UTC
Rumbaldi wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Hmm, 5 years in game and you don't know how realistic is for you to earn 800mil per month? After such long time you should have at least some kind of idea about your income generation options and capabilities.


I've jumped from thing to thing in that time, never really concentrating in one area, Ive made ISK in most areas but now I am specifically wanting to concentrate in one area in order to make enough to plex, but without getting the 800m (and more) as the sole thing that I do in game, therefore was just seeking opinions on other peoples best methods.


5 years and you can't make 27m isk per day?
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#19 - 2014-09-28 08:26:49 UTC
Rumbaldi wrote:

Secondly (if realistic) what would be the best sorts of activities with a limited playtime (3 hours on weedays, a bit longer some weekends) to achieve that amount.

If you have limited play time, why would you waste it with grinding ISK for PLEX than simply pay that one sub and enjoy the game instead? The PLEX centered lifestyle where you grind ISK to pay for another month of mindlessly grinding ISK will change the way you play the game significantly and at least in my opinion kill the fun.

If you are just looking for a target to work towards there are many other things you can do in EVE.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#20 - 2014-09-28 08:50:47 UTC
.......

Sigh.

Dude.

Just pay for the one year sub.

It's only about $10-11 per month that way.


And if you really, truly, can't afford the $120-30 bucks for a one-year sub, why are you even playing online computer games?

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