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Dev blog: The Space Object Factory: One File To Rule Them All

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#81 - 2014-09-27 03:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Darwin
Motriek wrote:
"...If we wanted to change the colored tint of the Sarum glow lights for example we would have to open, edit, save and QA the red files for every Sarum ship!..."

I am surprised to hear this is happening so late in EvE's development. It seems like CCP would have been using asset management software for some while to manage variations in texture, rigging, and modelling, but that's good to hear it's getting attention. Going to be impossible to sell aurum ship skins 'one day' without some way to reskin during design time as well as runtime.

You may want to have a look at "Production Pipeline Fundamentals" when thinking these challenges through. It's a well paved path.
http://www.amazon.com/Production-Pipeline-Fundamentals-Renee-Dunlop-ebook/dp/B00IOPYVIU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411757606&sr=1-1&keywords=Production+Pipeline+Fundamentals++By+Renee+Dunlop


I'll just point out that production pipelines such as those described in that book are concerned primarily with facilitating artist workflows, and don't have much to do at all with file formats, such as EVE's red files, that are intended for use as input to a game engine.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#82 - 2014-09-27 03:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
consider me impressed, perhaps somewhat fanboi. I'm in an introductory Maya class right now.

I'm not sure how to transition into this, so I'll just say it. "dude... our smiles though."


oh, hey. I follow you

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#83 - 2014-09-27 03:29:12 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
consider me impressed, perhaps somewhat fanboi. I'm in an introductory Maya class right now.


Sorry that I edited my post underneath you, and thanks for the kind words!

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#84 - 2014-09-27 03:29:42 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Motriek wrote:
"...If we wanted to change the colored tint of the Sarum glow lights for example we would have to open, edit, save and QA the red files for every Sarum ship!..."

I am surprised to hear this is happening so late in EvE's development. It seems like CCP would have been using asset management software for some while to manage variations in texture, rigging, and modelling, but that's good to hear it's getting attention. Going to be impossible to sell aurum ship skins 'one day' without some way to reskin during design time as well as runtime.

You may want to have a look at "Production Pipeline Fundamentals" when thinking these challenges through. It's a well paved path.
http://www.amazon.com/Production-Pipeline-Fundamentals-Renee-Dunlop-ebook/dp/B00IOPYVIU/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1411757606&sr=1-1&keywords=Production+Pipeline+Fundamentals++By+Renee+Dunlop


I'll just point out that production pipelines such as those described in that book are concerned primarily with facilitating artist workflows, and don't have much to do at all with file formats, such as EVE's red files, that are intended for use as input to a game engine.

Great original post and edit. I suggest you start a thread about your self and post most of it again over thereCool. For those that want to see the original you know where to goLol

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#85 - 2014-09-27 03:32:48 UTC
oh np. but I worry about you. "tell them nothing." I think Falcon can help you with that.

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Fraucha Tanakoh
Perkone
Caldari State
#86 - 2014-09-27 08:46:47 UTC
Thanks for the information, as long as you are streamlining:

All I really want is to paint all my ships white and paste a huge Japanese WW2 Rising Sun across the hulls.... not too much to ask right?
Anara Shaw
E X I U S
#87 - 2014-09-27 20:50:36 UTC
... and we get to enjoy it all in glorious low resolution textures!
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#88 - 2014-09-28 22:58:43 UTC
I like the idea of ships regardless of their racial origins being skinned the same scheme as that of their corporate builder.
Arcos Vandymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2014-09-29 10:57:50 UTC
Anara Shaw wrote:
... and we get to enjoy it all in glorious low resolution textures!


I would turn down the graphics on my engine even further but I'm allready playing at the lowest possible settings. I hate my hardware being bad. High Res packs have my vote for future better hardware though. Gotta support it now to get it by the beginning of the new decade ;)

DrysonBennington wrote:
I like the idea of ships regardless of their racial origins being skinned the same scheme as that of their corporate builder.


A Blood Typhoon or Cane (+1 for that) ... heck anything with great flat panels would probably look nifty as well. Actually pretty much everything probably looks good with a Blood Raider scheme - it's one of the best looking of all the schemes. Must be the fact that the colours used are rather distinct and the pattern is more organic than geometric. Oh yeah and it's one of the brightest schemes with that bleached bone/dried blood look.

Blood Legion/Proteus ... Tengu would look not so good, the pattern doesn't fit the hull aesthetics. Blood Loki could work though.
Arcos Vandymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2014-10-01 16:09:55 UTC
Doublepost yeah I know but since this one doesn't have a whole lot to do with the previous one:

The new fancy stations introduced in Kronos - are they handled in the same way? Because that sure would make a LOT of sense and, again, would be fancy to see crossovers. Something like a caldari corp like the Business Tribunal renting an amarrian station in Amarr HighSec - or only being allowed to build in amarrian style there. Would add some flavour.

I can actually imagine the Gallente Federation legally forcing a caldari corp to build in their style if they have no other argument against the caldari corp errecting a potentiall base for their blood-feud enemies.... and so on and so forth.
Lukas Rox
Aideron Technologies
#91 - 2014-10-16 13:28:18 UTC
CCP Mankiller, are you perhaps coming to Twitter? There's a bunch of queries I'd love to ask regarding use of SOF with third party apps. currently I use CCPWebGL and download red files directly from CCP CDN.

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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
#92 - 2014-12-19 01:13:57 UTC
Cool blog!

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