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Proposal: Rename Nennamaila to Villers

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#1 - 2014-09-25 21:07:15 UTC
The system named Nennamaila, in the Ishaga Constellation of the Black Rise Region has been liberated from the fascists of the Caldari State for 1070 straight days - almost three full years. It has been the main starbase station system for the major corporations fighting for freedom and liberty in Faction Warfare for an even longer period of time, and it is currently a sovereign Gallente Federation system.

As such, I propose this system be renamed in honor of the former President of the Federation Arlette Villers who inspired countless new Faction Warfare Militia members with her famous quote:

"The Federation is not a defined region of space, of planets, of mountains, rivers, or woods. It is a vision." - President of the Federation, Arlette Villers. CE 23154.6.2

Words matter. And her words are the foundation from which our militia draws strength. Thank you Arlette Villers.
Cuci Cairi
#2 - 2014-09-25 22:16:02 UTC
Why are you proposing this to a bunch of capsuleers? Go talk to the Senate if you want it done.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#3 - 2014-09-25 22:19:26 UTC
Consider this an editorial or opinion piece - not an official proposal.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-09-26 03:28:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Don't worry about this.
Rather soon the gallentean oppression in Nennamaila will be lifted and bodies of gallentean occupants will be sent back to their homes in plastic bags.

We don't just leave out citizens to misery under gallenteans. Those, who endured these years will be honored as heroes. Those, who collaborated, will be executed as traitors.

But everyone, especially you, X Gallentius, should have already learned one thing: Caldari ALWAYS return.

Glory to the State!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#5 - 2014-09-26 08:56:55 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
soon


Yes yes yes....would you like to add a TM to the end of that?

-Eran
Wendrika Hydreiga
#6 - 2014-09-26 10:14:02 UTC
Silly Mister Mintor...

Soon© is now property of the Caldari State! Why? Because it has a © at the end of it. The rest of the cluster should henceforth use terms like briefly, shortly or promptly or risk paying charges for wrongly usage of Soon©.

On a side note, it would be pretty cool to see a system renamed!
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-09-26 11:08:05 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
soon


Yes yes yes....would you like to add a TM to the end of that?

-Eran

I might... in the form of a Thermal Missile.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#8 - 2014-09-26 14:41:20 UTC
While I respect Diana Kim's enthusiasm and willingness to fight on the front lines, the cold hard facts are that Nennamaila has been under Federation protection for so long that its citizens (both immigrants recent immigrants who have arrived since its liberation and the locals who were here from the beginning) are loyal to the Federation in all but name. Nennamaila is as more secure than Villore, and is as secure as Vilinnon, and Vilur. Why not allow "Villers" to the V roster of names?

JP Eulienne
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-09-26 14:44:07 UTC
No-one biting? For shame.
Cuci Cairi
#10 - 2014-09-26 15:30:46 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
...Nennamaila has been under Federation protection for so long that its citizens (both immigrants recent immigrants who have arrived since its liberation and the locals who were here from the beginning) are loyal to the Federation in all but name.


Even capsuleers have a longer memory than this. You apparently think very little of the emotional fortitude of those living on the planet.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#11 - 2014-09-26 15:34:03 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
...Nennamaila has been under Federation protection for so long that its citizens (both immigrants recent immigrants who have arrived since its liberation and the locals who were here from the beginning) are loyal to the Federation in all but name.


Even capsuleers have a longer memory than this. You apparently think very little of the emotional fortitude of those living on the planet.
And you give them very little credit when it comes to making rational decisions about their individual lives.

tbh, nothing would change from the current status quo (Nennamaila is a sovereign Federation system) with the exception of honoring President Villers.
Cuci Cairi
#12 - 2014-09-26 15:41:18 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cuci Cairi wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
...Nennamaila has been under Federation protection for so long that its citizens (both immigrants recent immigrants who have arrived since its liberation and the locals who were here from the beginning) are loyal to the Federation in all but name.


Even capsuleers have a longer memory than this. You apparently think very little of the emotional fortitude of those living on the planet.
And you give them very little credit when it comes to making rational decisions about their individual lives.

tbh, nothing would change from the current status quo (Nennamaila is a sovereign Federation system) with the exception of honoring President Villers.


And arbitrarily renaming the home of billions of people. They should probably be consulted about the notion.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#13 - 2014-09-26 15:47:02 UTC
Cuci Cairi wrote:
And arbitrarily renaming the home of billions of people. They should probably be consulted about the notion.
Not arbitrary at all. Nennamaila is home of the strongest militia fleet in all of New Eden, is a sovereign Federation system, and President Villers is its inspirational leader.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#14 - 2014-09-26 16:35:27 UTC
Oh! I know! Let's put it to a vote! You all are fond of those things, right?

So-- the baseliner populations of Nennamaila are the ones to vote on this, right? Even though these populations will mostly be ethnically Caldari, of course; the number who have become federal citizens is probably not high. Or will you disenfranchise the ethnic Caldari in favor of the federal citizens you've brought in to support your military operations? Though if that's the case, couldn't you just import enough naval personnel to get a 'yes' vote?

Huh. This 'democracy in an occupied territory' thing seems slightly problematic.

Not that you'd notice it, what with 'For Glory of Righteous Democratic People's Gallente State' or whatnot stenciled onto the sides of your ships.

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#15 - 2014-09-26 16:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Makoto Priano wrote:
Oh! I know! Let's put it to a vote! You all are fond of those things, right?

So-- the baseliner populations of Nennamaila are the ones to vote on this, right? Even though these populations will mostly be ethnically Caldari, of course; the number who have become federal citizens is probably not high. Or will you disenfranchise the ethnic Caldari in favor of the federal citizens you've brought in to support your military operations? Though if that's the case, couldn't you just import enough naval personnel to get a 'yes' vote?

Huh. This 'democracy in an occupied territory' thing seems slightly problematic.

Not that you'd notice it, what with 'For Glory of Righteous Democratic People's Gallente State' or whatnot stenciled onto the sides of your ships.

1. It's not an occupied territory, it's a Gallente Federation Sovereign system.
2. I would personally love to put it to a vote, but this is a summit and my original post was an editorial/opinion piece honoring a great person.
3. I have "For the Federation!" stenciled on the side of my Federation Navy Comet. You can't see it because it's in camoflage.

There are worse things out there than honoring a great (Intaki born) leader of the Federation.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-09-26 17:55:26 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
While I respect Diana Kim's enthusiasm and willingness to fight on the front lines, the cold hard facts are that Nennamaila has been under Federation protection for so long that its citizens (both immigrants recent immigrants who have arrived since its liberation and the locals who were here from the beginning) are loyal to the Federation in all but name. Nennamaila is as more secure than Villore, and is as secure as Vilinnon, and Vilur. Why not allow "Villers" to the V roster of names?


The Caldari Prime was under gallentean occupation for about two hundred years.
Just three years of oppression by gallentes in Nennamaila is nothing, our citizens could endure way more.

And Nennamaila will be secure only after the last gallentean occupant in the system will be exterminated. Until this time, it is warzone. And any federal in there is a subject to elimination on contact.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-26 17:59:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
X Gallentius wrote:

1. It's not an occupied territory, it's a Gallente Federation Sovereign system.

Incorrect.
Nennamaila is the State system, that is, unfortunately, still under Gallente occupation. And we won't stop fighting, while there are alive gallenteans present.

X Gallentius wrote:

2. I would personally love to put it to a vote, but this is a summit and my original post was an editorial/opinion piece honoring a great person.

Gallentean oppressors can vote in the system as much as they want, but it won't save them from death and the system from liberation of gallente occupants.

X Gallentius wrote:

3. I have "For the Federation!" stenciled on the side of my Federation Navy Comet. You can't see it because it's in camoflage.

There are worse things out there than honoring a great (Intaki born) leader of the Federation.

All leaders of the Federation will be forgotten after the Federation will be destroyed.
This anti-human organization did nothing good except atrocities and crimes against humanity. It must be eradicated from existence at all costs.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#18 - 2014-09-29 11:39:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Leopold Caine
Of course, whom else to expect to post propositions (even non-legal ones, I'm aware this is the IGS) that complicate the bureaucratic clusterf*** that is the star system nomenclature furthermore.

...than a Federal bureaucrat.

Also, hasn't your beloved Senate signed the Yoiul Conference?
Again, I'm no bureaucrat and am under no jurisdiction of the bodies that signed it, but I'm sure there were some chapters there about uniforming star system names. Probably for a good reason.
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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#19 - 2014-09-29 13:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Leopold Caine wrote:
Of course, whom else to expect to post propositions (even non-legal ones, I'm aware this is the IGS) that complicate the bureaucratic clusterf*** that is the star system nomenclature furthermore.

...than a Federal bureaucrat.

Who are you talking about? I'm a member of the Gallente Militia - putting my ships at risk for a cause. What are you? A pirate that kills young capsuleer on a low sec border in the Domain region?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-09-29 13:42:08 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Of course, whom else to expect to post propositions (even non-legal ones, I'm aware this is the IGS) that complicate the bureaucratic clusterf*** that is the star system nomenclature furthermore.

...than a Federal bureaucrat.

Also, hasn't your beloved Senate signed the Yoiul Conference?
Again, I'm no bureaucrat and am under no jurisdiction of the bodies that signed it, but I'm sure there were some chapters there about uniforming star system names. Probably for a good reason.

Only fools would believe gallente signatures.
Whatever they have signed, they can just ignore. An example would be this operation Highlander, which didn't just contained war crimes, but was a war crime as a whole and a violation of the treaty, signed by gallentean president himself just six years ago.

The only thing that gallenteans will understand - is the force.
At the moment we are still liberating systems from gallentean oppression, that were captured and occupied during last gallentean raids. Many prisoners of war and oppressed civilians were released, and they returned happily to their daily duties.
And many systems are still under oppression, this Nennamaila is one of them.
Eventually, we will take care about all and every one of them.

Gallentean occupants will find on our worlds only one thing:

THE DEATH

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

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