Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You need to know that packaged items do not exist. They are only placeholders for real items to reduce the volume of the database. Thus, there is no individual information on a packaged item, like who produced it.

Whenever you assemble something it gets an ID, when you repackage it the ID changes once you assemble it again.

And redundant post.

Where is this post so I can read it?

Don't say that. It just makes it sound like Eve's code is poorly written. Makes you wonder how it doesn't lag in massive fleet fights due to all the character names in the game.

Also that's not how programming works. If Eve can't even deal with text based statistics how are we ever going to get high resolution textures?

What do you think the database will do if it suddenly has to handle a billion more items because placeholders no longer exist?

you can always spot someone who know nothing about coding.

It would be an additional single column of arrays of playerIDs. When it's packaged it would have the array of playerIDs to keep track of everything. When they are unpackaged the playerIDs would be distributed to said packages. This isn't that hard.

Redundant. This is pretty much just like every other "give industrialists credit for ships" thread that has ever been posted since the dawn of posting in EVE-O Forums. It's also impossible without a major database restructuring and it would add unspeakable amounts of data to be managed.

Even if this were to be a remotely good idea - which it really isn't - specifically how do you propose to keep the BuilderID assigned to the ship? Let's propose for a moment that I'm buying up Catalysts. I buy some made by Jim-Bob Bucktooth, some built by Veronica Bimberly and a one being sold cheaply by DestructoGod MaxPower who didn't actually build his but got it handed to him from the tutorials, meaning that the server created it out of vapor and magic space-pixie stardust.

Three sources, three separate lines in the database. Two lines have different builders and one line has no builder. I buy them all and put them into a single stack. Three lines in the database are merged, two being deleted and the third amended with the new quantity of ships. How precisely do you plan to tell these ships apart for your BuilderID idea? When I assemble them, they get unique IDs in the database as individual ships. When I repackage them again, they lose those IDs which are then recycled for some other item (another ship maybe, or perhaps a gun or someone's missile flying through space possibly) and the repackaged ships are assigned the default TypeID for a packaged Catalyst. Upon assembling those ships a second time they're given new unique IDs, but different than the ones they had before. The IDs they get this time may have once referred to someone's Megathron or Void Bomb or Light Neutron Blaster II.

Every time I repackage and reassemble those ships, items in the database are destroyed and re-created. This process of stripping, recycling and reassigning unique IDs repeats. Endlessly. For every single item in the EVE universe.

So tell me, Orion Pax, how you plan to ram a muddy stick into that and make it work with your free-intel-giving BuilderID idea.

In detail, please. We're not 5-year-olds here.

ok, my apologies, just enough to be dangerous.

i say let him try