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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-09-23 09:44:26 UTC
As a preemptive post, to avoid my urge to rant if things go bad, I kindly ask to when you reach Black ops and Recons, keep some consistency to what you guys made on the base hulls. Please make the panther and the Huggin missile boats.

Making the redeemer a neut boat would be great flavor as well.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Lugh Crow-Slave
#2 - 2014-09-23 10:02:57 UTC
Step back you leave my panther out of this it's arty and cloak speed make it great for med to large fleets and is auto dps is great for hot drops. I don't need a missile boat that can't even apply dps to a ship holding still.

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#3 - 2014-09-23 10:15:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Step back you leave my panther out of this it's arty and cloak speed make it great for med to large fleets and is auto dps is great for hot drops. I don't need a missile boat that can't even apply dps to a ship holding still.


As above for my Panther and also please leave my Redeemer out of this, I like the pretty lights that burn.

As to the Huginn, do what you want I really couldn't care that much.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#4 - 2014-09-23 10:20:55 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Step back you leave my panther out of this it's arty and cloak speed make it great for med to large fleets and is auto dps is great for hot drops. I don't need a missile boat that can't even apply dps to a ship holding still.

Second that. Oh wait.

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#5 - 2014-09-23 10:27:01 UTC
As someone in progress of training for the Sin I fully support and endorse the missile Panther idea, sounds absolutely great to me.
The Sin could indeed use some application bonuses on Sentries and Heavies. And give it an active tanking bonus maybe for small drop fleets.
You might nerf Battleship Missiles on the way aswell.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#6 - 2014-09-23 10:43:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Get your filthy hands off my Panther, you heathens. If you want a missile blops, use the Widow.

Baali Tekitsu wrote:
As someone in progress of training for the Sin

How are you even relevant?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2014-09-23 10:55:07 UTC
Over all the blops are in a good place they do there job. (Sin could use some work)

As for recon ccp already said they were in the queue with bombers

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-09-23 11:35:40 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Step back you leave my panther out of this it's arty and cloak speed make it great for med to large fleets and is auto dps is great for hot drops. I don't need a missile boat that can't even apply dps to a ship holding still.



Making panther missiel based would make it MUCH more powerful. It is nearly a joke right now.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2014-09-23 11:44:37 UTC
How is it a joke as it stands the panther is able to alpha ships of the field and Re cloak b4 the enemy ft even knows it's there and auto canons have much better damage Aplication then RHML. torps are a joke against anything smaller then a battleship and the only advantage cruise missiles have is range and at that point you ate better off with arty so tippy don't need 3+ tps on your target

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Gosti Kahanid
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2014-09-23 14:33:06 UTC
When I see the two different Camps, leave it be or change it like the others, why not do both. Give these ships the Bonuses for both Systems so the Pilot can decide how to fit and fly them. There are just up to 8 High Slots
Madbuster73
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-09-23 14:36:25 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:
As a preemptive post, to avoid my urge to rant if things go bad, I kindly ask to when you reach Black ops and Recons, keep some consistency to what you guys made on the base hulls. Please make the panther and the Huggin missile boats.

Making the redeemer a neut boat would be great flavor as well.



Keep your hands of my Redeemer!!

But Please Remove the Scan Resolution Penalty for using a cloak on the Black Ops.
Its kinda ridicilous that the Black Ops gets a penalty for using a cloak.
Aivlis Eldelbar
State War Academy
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-09-23 16:22:13 UTC
Madbuster73 wrote:


But Please Remove the Scan Resolution Penalty for using a cloak on the Black Ops.
Its kinda ridicilous that the Black Ops gets a penalty for using a cloak.





This ^^
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#13 - 2014-09-23 18:39:42 UTC
Missile panther sounds beasty if it remains as agile/fast as it currently is.

The base cargo for BOs should also be looked at, ships with less low slots need more base cargo to be able to compete in the L4-distro sector.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#14 - 2014-09-23 18:40:49 UTC
Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:
Madbuster73 wrote:


But Please Remove the Scan Resolution Penalty for using a cloak on the Black Ops.
Its kinda ridicilous that the Black Ops gets a penalty for using a cloak.





This ^^

Both this-es

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#15 - 2014-09-23 18:50:18 UTC
Alundil wrote:
Aivlis Eldelbar wrote:
Madbuster73 wrote:


But Please Remove the Scan Resolution Penalty for using a cloak on the Black Ops.
Its kinda ridicilous that the Black Ops gets a penalty for using a cloak.





This ^^

Both this-es
I also ises thises.

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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#16 - 2014-09-23 19:33:58 UTC
Samillian wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Step back you leave my panther out of this it's arty and cloak speed make it great for med to large fleets and is auto dps is great for hot drops. I don't need a missile boat that can't even apply dps to a ship holding still.


As above for my Panther and also please leave my Redeemer out of this, I like the pretty lights that burn.

As to the Huginn, do what you want I really couldn't care that much.



I am with these guys about the Panther, it might need love but it doesn't need missiles.. Even if I don't fly mine right now I may want to some day.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#17 - 2014-09-23 22:07:07 UTC
Madbuster73 wrote:

But Please Remove the Scan Resolution Penalty for using a cloak on the Black Ops.
Its kinda ridicilous that the Black Ops gets a penalty for using a cloak.





There base scan res was already balanced around this so if they remove the penalty they will just lower there res.

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#18 - 2014-09-24 01:12:07 UTC
I do like the idea of making the huginn a dedicated missile boat, likewise I'd like to see the rapier a feasible albeit limited artillery platform.

Panther would be better off IMO getting both 5 missile and 5 turret slots and appropriate bonuses so pilots have a bit of flavor to choose from and an extension of whatever choice they made weapons wise i.e. it should be feasible to train up a min line just using missiles if you wanted with cyclone, huginn, claymore, bellicose, etc.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#19 - 2014-09-24 03:08:35 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

There base scan res was already balanced around this so if they remove the penalty they will just lower there res.

Sin 140
Kronos 120
Dominix & Navy 90
Sin with Cloak Penalty 84

Sorry, what were you saying about balanced around cloak penalty? Unless you mean making a 'hit & run' ship have the slowest lock time of the races Battleship line is balanced.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#20 - 2014-09-24 03:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:

There base scan res was already balanced around this so if they remove the penalty they will just lower there res.

Sin 140
Kronos 120
Dominix & Navy 90
Sin with Cloak Penalty 84

Sorry, what were you saying about balanced around cloak penalty? Unless you mean making a 'hit & run' ship have the slowest lock time of the races Battleship line is balanced.


but the highest w/o and its scan res with is 100 not 84 so its higher then its T1 hull and just under the marauder


however if they changed the cloaking skill to a reduction in scan res penalty rather then lock time that may help here and get more then just blop pilots a reason to train to V

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
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