Wormholes

Would prefer an analogy like a lake with only ten starving northern pikes of varying sizes in it.

R.I.P. w space

edit: i mean the nice commit 3 caps into somebodys home fights, not low-class gankage


reviewing kbs, when was the last time this happened? compared to pre-hyperion i wonder if overall kills in wpsace has gone up or down? same question for the amount isk killed...


I wonder how many people are flooding the market with their safely farmed nanoribbons..

at least blue loot prices wont be nerf-d (knocks on wood)

lmao because thats next on CCCP's list

CCP did ask us, though. Look what happened as a result :P

And I'm pretty sure we've thrown caps in for PvP through a WH post-Hyperion.

nanoribbons are climbing in value. QED, wormhole space is losing population.

Frigate holes, when was the last time you went through one or interacted with one? That's right - the day of the patch, or at latest, the day before they changed the k162 description to read "small ships only". I found 6 in 3 wormholes last night and used none of them.

I think what players can do is stop being lazy mealy-mouthed cowards and join smaller corporations. One problem linked to the atrocious state of POS security is the paranoia which people exercise in recruitment, and also exercise in their efforts to be recruited. people will not recruit toons with colourful or somewhat lengthy employment records, and the corollary of that is that people are afraid to join smaller corps and give it a try, because they think they are putting dirty great fingerprints of unreliability all over their rap sheet. So they hold out to join a big corp.

objectively, this may seem like a good move. You get reflected prestige, glory, and get content creators and buds to fly with. But realistically, you have just as much chance of fitting in, finding a niche, making spacebuds you will fly with for 6-12+ months at a time, and having fun.

But speaking as a content creator, the glory you get to bask in which i shed is just as valuable and far more hilarious than you'll get by being Random Member 421 in SSC, or Random member 322 in hard knocks. Being Valued member 32 in BUGRY or any other decent, small, PVP corp in w-space is that you get to participate in just as much PVP, more often, via more and more nefarious means. I mean...people will still attack my bait haulers. They wouldn't even bother if they saw the SSC, LZHX or HK tags.

So there is as much an onus on the recruit as the recruiter to make a good decision. New bros can and should join smaller corps, even if it is to do mining or gassing or PI. Speaking for myself only, i will willingly let you welp a Slasher day and night just because it distracts a guy for 10 seconds from DPSing my boat. That might not sound like glory, but if you prostitute yourself onto a T3 killmail and lose a 5m ISK frig in the process, your killboard will look red hot after the twentieth one.

That said, since CCP is about gifting limitless free ISK in Incursions, they really DO need to address wormhole ISK especially in low-class wormholes where you can't magically escalate more money out of nothing. C4 mags and radars (relics, data w/e) have Incursion level DPS from the 4 Safeguards and you make 125-ish million from a site which doesn't respawn infinitely.

In fact, wormhole space is the only space where the only limitless ISK is the PI, and that's not spectacular.

People are just being rational about it, and funding hours of wormhole boredom by putting up with incursion neckbeards.

Personally I am not for evicting corps from wormholes as we need the population to stay although I am for whatever generates content. We want MORE PVP communities in wormhole space. We do also want to get a new breed of PVE toons. I say start finding and spamming wormhole advertisements. I've already gotten 2-3 bites from small PVE groups for a reasonable Class 2 wormhole.

Lets get a new breed of wormholer in to wormhole space!

To much letters for me....

As i already said, give the people more possibilities to earn ISK.
PVP is coming from alone.

And well we adapt to the new changes. And well not all is bad.
Yes, there are More Wormhole Connections.
Yes, you need more People for Farming C4s.

So, CCP give the People the chance to make ISK in Lower WH Classes, and a bunch of people are willing to move into the WH Space. -> More People in WH Space - > More PVP in WH Space

I live since four- five years in W-Space, I cant really remember when I moved into W-Space in my first C2.
But I can remember, at the golden day of w-space, in a C2 you were able to buy two - three PLEX per month.
And have fun with three or four People.

So what happen over the Time ..... out of my point of view.... cant tell what is the situation in higher WH Systems.
ISK Income in lower WH Systems droped.

Well bigger Corps in Higher WH system made there money with Cap eskaltions, etc....
But for smaller Corps rise the risk for earn some ISK to high.

Why should they go into W-Space, If they have Blue Heaven in NULL sec.

In NULL Space its much easier to make ISK.
I don't think I have to explain why.
Lokal, Intel, Site spawning.... etc...

And as I said at the beginning of my post, rise the income and people will come back.


Okay that's my point of view, if I am wrong please so tell me.

Just because you live in a c5 or c6, doesn't mean you are stinking rich. A system can only support so many people really. And you can't fully cap escelate in c5/c6 static (you can partial, but at a much higher risk).

Also remember, when you run cap escelations, you field like a 20b+ worth. If you get ganked, it will take you around 8 hours of grinding sites to recoup the loss, assuming you have the sites to do it. (and if you have like 2 sites spawning for a entire week, well good luck with that). If you lost a tengu or similar running sites in a c3, you probably would spend just as long grind sites in a c3 to recover that as well.

If it was just about isk, I would just stick to industry in high sec.

Also there is a limit of how many sites you really feel like running. I look at it as a need to cover bills and loss's not to get as much in your wallet as possible. Although any month where more come in than out is a good thing, but been on both side of the fence there.

You make your point well enough - you don't want to see me trying to say anything in German...

I am not a nullseccer, i life only in a C3 with Static NULL,.. more fun for everyone *g*

Because w-space is ded?