Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Small of topic.
Can CCP state if this will be one big time expansion , or changes will be in small patches , and when we can expect first changes.

This is quite important for some players.

What do you think that systems under incursion are having only 1 timer (random 12-24h ) on Ihub , station is not considered.
So people will have to fight incursion ,and not just wait for it to end.

I am aware of this.
Question is , will we wait for 2 years for something big , or there will be some content creating changes within 1-2months.
Some simple stuff like :
- reducing ehp of all sov structures
- adjusting timers , even number of timers
- reducing jump bridge/ titan bridge / jump drive distance
- sov maintenance bill
etc

So simple stuff that is just represented by few numbers in the database, but can have significant impact how stagnant and boring eve becomes.

For example , sov cost was not adjusted for years, including the bill for extra upgrades.
With all this empty space all around eve , why not adjust it now , for them to be corresponded to initial real cost for players.

This could persuade big blocks to rethink their holdings.

For example raise sov bill per system to 600mil / month.
Will smaller groups will be impacted - yes, but at the same time big groups that hold 100 - 0.1 systems will have to rethink - abandon this space and allow smaller group to move in , or maintain it without using this space.

600 mill for small alliance is not big price , especially when they can see their logo on eve map.

Well back in the day before Rent there was "protection" I remember when Red Alliance Claimed all of the drones regions when they were released and each alliance who did not want trouble with them would pay for protection... its basiaclly extortion...

'RENT' is only viable when you are unwilling to fight , and enemy can reach you without endangering any of its assets - so current NULL condition.
You can move from edge of map to another and come back faster than any timer will end.

The shortest possible timer is around 1 day , you can make this trip within 30minutes.

separate engagements. In the first engagement, Goons outnumbered MoA (Replicator was only pot-shotting small frigs until his boxer got messed up), however only had 2 carriers compared to 8 carriers on MoA.

Later on, when the dreads were seigeing a tower, Goons who were in system attacked, while for whatever reason, MoA decided to self-destruct instead of bring in their existing forces of carriers/cruisers/BS even thougfh they were under cyno-jam protection.

You can see this happening both ways, whoever had the most carriers would inevitably win the fight and do the most damage. If you nerf the projection without ficxing the power, you still have the same problem. Bigger groups will and can find simple ways to circumvent arbitrary limits such as the ones involved in jump drive travel.

If you remove the power, however, the picture looks different. Still an advantage to the larger force, but its not so bad since you have removed the claws. If carriers couldnt spider-tank, the engagement would have ended differently (not necessarily who wins, but how much was lost on both side). If you remove the same factor from the larger side, those engagements will end differently as well. Ever wonder why its mostly carriers that get used in these situations? Its the security that mass amounts of them provide.

E: also 2 hours? how do you plan on dealing with jump-clones and death-clones? multiplecapitals isnt as big of an issue for blobs as it is for small people.

Cut EHP of all logistic ships by 40% or reduce their sensor strength by 70%.
Jamming will again have something to say in the fights.

Carriers can be fixed very easily.
While reducing capital remote assist modules amount boost bonus you get from triage, so in the triage ships will rep, transfer on current rates.
For example :
Capital Remote Armor Repairs - without triage they rep 1/4 of their current amount , but additional bonus in triage compensates this.

Second possibility - capital remote assist modules can be only activated while ship is in triage.
But this have to be connected to all modules , or we get pure remote cap transfers , and 2-3 local repair modules on current boot/slowcat fits.

And that is why TIME to travel is not and will not be the solution.


As long as at the end of the travel, the super powers can jump 300 capitals ship at same time into a fight, the cannon to kill a butterfly problem will remain.


A limit on how many capitals jump to a system per minute means that you cannot bring such overhelming capital force and rely completely on it. And you in fact would need to bring ships in waves, hours if not days in advance of a large battle if the decision for a massive all or nothing battle was taken. That would mean capital ships would have to be more reserved for strategical deployments. And that nerfs the power a LOT.

That generate a situation where you need to choose. You want power? then you have almost no projection and need to start moving the ships HOURS in advance and carefully. If you want response power you need to do it mostly with subcapitals and a handful of capitals.

Well triage carriers repairing sub capitals are not the issue - simply because triaged carriers cannot receive remote aid, and even when carrier is repping itself can be quite easily destroyed.

If you fear Tech 3 cruiser fleets repaired by triaged carriers - just make carriers more vulnerable to ewar while in triage.

Reducing non triage remote aid amounts will effectively limit all carrier blobs.
Will this lead to 3-4 times more carriers thrown on grid - lets hope not.

Is the RR range issue?
Depending on the situation it can be issue or something desired.

If enemy drops 250 carriers , some of them will be bumped a bid, but they usually will stay in range of bonused remote repairs.
You could say that at this moment this is issue.

When you are repairing modules on pos , scattered around this pos , slow boating ... can be irritating.

So let just assume that changing non triage repair aid amounts should help current situation a lot.




Thats why in other topic i suggested that timer length and amount of timers is linked to non passive system usage by alliance members.

If there will be almost no :
- pvp kills with alliance members
- pve activity
- presence

system will simply have no timers , and can be taken by any one as soon as they online SBU and kill TCU.

Grinding those indexes up should not be something you can do 1 day , and they stay for a week, rather than every day usage, and they should degrade faster and faster the lower index gets.

I think you assume much. 2 hours of travel tacked on to the beginning and end of every op will go a long way to making folks lose interest in maitaining your empire. 4 hours of travel time (BORING) to get in on one of your BORING sov fights may just be too much.

Again, you say it's not a big deal, so what the heck, let's implement it immediately. No big deal... right??