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Mining Mission 6
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Marites Visande
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-09-23 00:02:33 UTC

Mission briefing
Your agent wants you to make 20 units of Cap Booster 25, in two batches: you'll need mexallon, pyerite, and tritanium to do the job. Again, it doesn't matter how you acquire them, though you might need to look outside your current solar system.

Helpful hint: Pyroxeres, Plagioclase, Jaspet and Hemorphite ores produce these three mineral types when reprocessed.


Here we go again ...... where and how do I find out where to mine these ores ?
Slymah
DorpCorp
#2 - 2014-09-23 00:32:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Slymah
Here's a little chart. Ore locations

I'm not big on mining so when I did those 'new' tutorials I simply flew to a trade hub and bought the ore I needed instead of mining it myself. If you are interested in mining though it's probably worth mining yourself.

Just curious ... have you done the exploration tutorials yet? lol



also- Industry tutorial walkthrough



Quote:
This is similar to the third mission as you have to use the provided BPC to make an item. The problem is you don’t have the minerals to do it. So checking the market is a good option. In this case I checked the price for Mexilon and the amount I would need (from the BPC) and compared that price to that of 20 units Capacitor Boosters 25. The time and cost showed me that it was just easier to buy the finished product and deliver that to the agent. Later on I can, when I find the right ore, still do the job and resell the items and maybe make even more ISK than what I spent. This is a good example of using the market of EVE. One thing to watch for is where you buy and if you have to travel/haul the stuff back, so just don’t go for the cheapest price. For more on the Market, look for my article “This Little Pilot goes to Market”.
As I mentioned in the third mission, some BP build more than one item at a time. This BPC has two runs, but each run builds 10 units of Capacitor Boosters 25
Marites Visande
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-09-23 00:51:05 UTC
No not done the exploration tutorial yet because the beginning tutorials said it did not matter which tutorial you did first. Again bad instruction.
Not sure what those charts mean but thanks anyway.
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-09-23 01:01:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Naween
Marites Visande wrote:
No not done the exploration tutorial yet because the beginning tutorials said it did not matter which tutorial you did first. Again bad instruction.
Not sure what those charts mean but thanks anyway.


it doesnt matter what order you do them in. No idea why the previous poster even brought it up.

the best way is to buy the ore from the market. as for the chart linked. It isnt too hard to read. the four quadrants are devided up in the four empires. so if you are in Amarr space and want to see what ores available you look in the upper left hand quadrant.

then the circles with numbers that is the system security rating. so if you look at kernite (use the key at the bottom to see what icon is kernite) you see it spawns in Amarr, Caldari and Minmatar space and in systems with a sec rating of 0.5-0.7. so if you are in a 0.8 or higher kernite wont spawn despite you being in Amarr space
Marites Visande
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-09-23 01:09:24 UTC
Why buy it when the tutorial is for mining ? Strange and again why does the tutorial not tell me to do this ?
So sad this game is so vague with instructions it must lose so many potential players at the start because it is just too hard to learn.
Slymah
DorpCorp
#6 - 2014-09-23 01:09:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Slymah
Marites Visande wrote:
No not done the exploration tutorial yet because the beginning tutorials said it did not matter which tutorial you did first. Again bad instruction.
Not sure what those charts mean but thanks anyway.



The chart lists the ore you can mine in specific regions/security status.

The mineral chart at the bottom shows what minerals you can extract from the particular ores.

For instance you need Mexallon, Pyerite and Tritanium.

Mining Plagioclase will get you all three of those minerals. Find Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space.

You would have to check the blueprints for specific amounts needed to create the cap boosters.


EDIT: Oh sorry to confuse you. I just asked about the exploration tutorials as those are the ones newer people usually have the most problems with.
Slymah
DorpCorp
#7 - 2014-09-23 01:24:49 UTC
Marites Visande wrote:
Why buy it when the tutorial is for mining ? Strange and again why does the tutorial not tell me to do this ?
So sad this game is so vague with instructions it must lose so many potential players at the start because it is just too hard to learn.


Yea the tutorials are kinda new and not all that great. There used to be none so I suppose they're somewhat useful.

True - However it's also the reason why everyone is 'usually' so helpful. Nobody just started EVE and took off to the top. Everyone started this game scared, clueless and diligently seeking help. It also holds a bit higher age bracket then most mmo's.
Marites Visande
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-09-23 01:54:07 UTC
Mining Plagioclase will get you all three of those minerals. Find Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space.

How do I get to this location ?
Slymah
DorpCorp
#9 - 2014-09-23 02:02:15 UTC
Marites Visande wrote:
Mining Plagioclase will get you all three of those minerals. Find Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space.

How do I get to this location ?



Open up the star map and click around on different systems. You'll find one very close to your starting system. Alternatively you can just hop through a gate or two. You'll see what the security status is next to the system name.
Marites Visande
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-09-23 02:08:32 UTC
Is there no way to search for Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space ?
Just jumping around randomly in hope seems to be a bit strange.
Slymah
DorpCorp
#11 - 2014-09-23 02:15:55 UTC
Once you find a 0.9 or 0.8 system then you just warp to any asteroid field in that system and you 'should' find plagioclasse mixed in with other ores.

Once you find a system just left click in space.. the asteroid belts will be labeled and listed. Just keep warping around to each one until you find some. *keep in mind the asteroid belts respawn after downtime I beleive so they may be pretty mined out but you'll find a belt eventually.

Shouldnt take long.
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-09-23 02:30:52 UTC
Slymah wrote:

Once you find a system just right click in space..


Fixed that for you Blink.

Grrr.
Soloman Jackson
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2014-09-23 03:26:38 UTC
Marites Visande wrote:
Is there no way to search for Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space ?
Just jumping around randomly in hope seems to be a bit strange.


1. Undock
2. Right click in space
3. Use asteroid belt drop down menu
4. Warp to an asteroid belt
5. Check overview for type of ore needed/wanted
6. If ore needed/wanted is not in belt return to step 2 (and choose a new belt)
7. If ore is in belt, target ore by holding alt and left clicking on target ore either in space or on overview
8. If ore you need/want is not in the system you're in, go to a new system and start again at step 2.

If that is too much for you to handle, go to station and buy the materials you need.

I would say fly safe, but it sounds like you're not flying at all. Get out of station and fly around a bit. Check out your surroundings. Warp to locations on your overview. Quit acting like this is a linear game, it isn't. You have to dive in head first and realize you may trip up a few times before you get it down.

The tutorials are just EVE Online's version of natural selection. Are you a lion or a gazelle?

“The cold stars spun to the ancient rhythm, the august march of an everlasting symphony. They are old, the stars, and their memory is long.” -Rick Yancey
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-09-23 07:23:56 UTC
Marites Visande wrote:

Mission briefing
Your agent wants you to make 20 units of Cap Booster 25, in two batches: you'll need mexallon, pyerite, and tritanium to do the job. Again, it doesn't matter how you acquire them, though you might need to look outside your current solar system.

Helpful hint: Pyroxeres, Plagioclase, Jaspet and Hemorphite ores produce these three mineral types when reprocessed.


Here we go again ...... where and how do I find out where to mine these ores ?



Welcome to EVE.

From the looks of your questions, you expect that EVE holds your hand and guides you towards where everything is located etc.

Heads up, EVE isn't hand holding, EVE expects that you do some research on your own (or with friends, it's a MMO after all).

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2014-09-23 07:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Marites Visande wrote:
Why buy it when the tutorial is for mining ? Strange and again why does the tutorial not tell me to do this ?
So sad this game is so vague with instructions it must lose so many potential players at the start because it is just too hard to learn.


WRONG.

It's not a mining tutorial, it's a industry tutorial, hence you are bulding someting, and industry can also mean you buy your resources.

Quote:

Mission briefing
Your agent wants you to make 20 units of Cap Booster 25, in two batches: you'll need mexallon, pyerite, and tritanium to do the job. Again, it doesn't matter how you acquire them, though you might need to look outside your current solar system.

Helpful hint: Pyroxeres, Plagioclase, Jaspet and Hemorphite ores produce these three mineral types when reprocessed.


The mission DOES mention you can buy them, I highlighted it.

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Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-09-23 07:27:57 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
Marites Visande wrote:
Mining Plagioclase will get you all three of those minerals. Find Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space.

How do I get to this location ?


Really...

Sorry, but please. Basic tutorial 1 guides you how to navigate yourself in space.

Now, find a Gallente system that is of 0.8 or 0.9...voila.


Did you even read and understand the initial tutorials? I think you did as you moved from Cistu to Clellinon, so you should be able to find a system to mine in.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-09-23 07:30:21 UTC
Marites Visande wrote:
Is there no way to search for Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space ?
Just jumping around randomly in hope seems to be a bit strange.


Okay, close to calling you a biggest troll ever.

Guy above you already said you can find it in GAlletne space, so why ask if it's possible.


And you are NOT jumping around randomly if you use the map as he said, you look at the map for a system that suits your conditions....you go there, you mine the ores and you go back to where the agent is.

Please show me where there is jumping around at random in that.

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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-09-23 07:34:07 UTC
Soloman Jackson wrote:
Marites Visande wrote:
Is there no way to search for Plagioclase in 0.9-0.8 systems in Gallente/Minmatar space ?
Just jumping around randomly in hope seems to be a bit strange.


1. Undock
2. Right click in space
3. Use asteroid belt drop down menu
4. Warp to an asteroid belt
5. Check overview for type of ore needed/wanted
6. If ore needed/wanted is not in belt return to step 2 (and choose a new belt)
7. If ore is in belt, target ore by holding alt and left clicking on target ore either in space or on overview
8. If ore you need/want is not in the system you're in, go to a new system and start again at step 2.

If that is too much for you to handle, go to station and buy the materials you need.

I would say fly safe, but it sounds like you're not flying at all. Get out of station and fly around a bit. Check out your surroundings. Warp to locations on your overview. Quit acting like this is a linear game, it isn't. You have to dive in head first and realize you may trip up a few times before you get it down.

The tutorials are just EVE Online's version of natural selection. Are you a lion or a gazelle?



^ This.

Tutorials when I started...were non-existing...yet here are all those old people, still happily playing the game.

EVE is a sandbox, you get out of it what you put into it.


Now, for the OP, from the questions you have, I get the feeling that:

A. EVE might not be the game for you (you are expecting from a game a lot more guidance - I can't wait till you finished the tutorial and find out that you will have NO guidance anymore)

B. You might need a lot of 1 on 1 help, try to find people to help you in game (tip: Help Chat Reloaded - join that channel, it's basically a player-controlled (and less crowded) help chat).

Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy

Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded

Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-09-23 07:40:04 UTC
Not being nasty, but...
If you're having this much trouble with tutorials which tell you exactly what to do, how will you feel after the tutorials are finished when there is *no* guidance at all, no pointers on what to do next, no quests popping up, no NPCs you can go to and ask for how to get back onto the main story line, no direction that you don't choose yourself?

You've decided 3 times to quit, maybe do so and, if you like the idea of EVE, come back in a few months/few years. No shame in deciding that a game is not for you. If it's frustrating and not fun, don't force yourself to play.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-09-23 07:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Marites Visande wrote:
Why buy it when the tutorial is for mining ?


Because it's not a mining tutorial. It's the Industrial tutorial. Mining is part of industry, but only part. The large-scale manufacturers will usually buy most of their supplies from the market.

Quote:
Strange and again why does the tutorial not tell me to do this ?


It tells you that it doesn't matter how you acquire the minerals, so it's entirely your choice if you mine it, buy it, steal it, etc.

That's fairly common in how EVE works. Given goals, not exact steps that must be taken.
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