EVE New Citizens Q&A

I meant the part you cant see if someone is in FW or not unless you are in FW yourself.

It isnt a problem as it doesnt matter if he is or isnt in FW as long as you arent in it.

Again, it means nothing.

As you will be shooting that gate camp, it doesn't matter if that gate camp consists out of FW people / null sec owners / low-sec pirates or just random group of people.

No matter what of the list of above is true, same rules apply - which is if you open fire first, it's seen as act of agression against a neutral towards you (unless they are legal target ergo: war targets / have a suspect or criminal flag / have -5 or lower sec status) which means gate guns will shoot you and you go suspect and thus are open to the entire gate camp to be shot at.

Hmz.

Crimewatch 2.0 clearly states how suspect and criminal flags work.

Not to mention that you have to adjust your safety settings first before you can even become suspect.



Also, you attack someone, and you expect them to not fight back to defend themself....really?

Then unless you are expecting friendly support, you can pretty much assume that everyone on that gate is hostile.

And it doesn't matter if someone pays you or not... normal rules of aggression apply unless;

A. You are in faction warfare yourself.
B. The targets are also in faction warfare on the opposing side (which, more often than not, is only true half the time).


If you ARE expecting friendly support... then you SHOULD all be in a fleet together so no friendly fire incidents occur.


See above. If you are going into a gatecamp with no confirmed support (which you should be in a fleet with), the assumption is that everyone is hostile until proven otherwise. This is pretty much how everyone in low-sec operates by the way (see: everyone, even your allies, are potential targets... no bs).


Also... you can set standings for entire corporations and alliances by adding their organization as a contact and setting them as "red."
But that won't really matter when you are dealing with multiple groups working together.



Nevil... I'm getting the impression that you assume no one wants to shoot each other unless there is no other option. I want you to know that this is not true and that shooting is often the FIRST option exercised in most situations... consequences be damned.

And gatecrashing solo... even in the most beefy ship available... WILL result in your swift termination... even if the targets are in frigates.
I personally will not hesitate to engage a solo battleship in my Tristan (I might even be able to kill it!).

My point was just that knowing that they are FW players and what side they are on could potentially be useful nothing more.

I don't know how many players it would be useful to, who knows what they get up to when I am not there ?
and a lot of the time I can't tell what they are doing when I am there


Your corp contact technique sounds quite interesting where would you find a list of who is signed up ?

I think this will not set apart your selected group from anyone else you happen to have collected in your personal low standing list, if you use that.

My mother always said ' Don't fight all your enemies at once '

In reality she didn't but must I always take the credit for the originality of my semi-proverbial guidance ?

*cough* Overview ticker...

Pilot A (CAS) - Center of Advanced Studies - Gallente born pilot still in new player corp.
Pilot B (IC24) - Imperial Crusade - Amar FW pilot

I don't need a freaking useless feature to see that a person is in a certain corp...as it's already there in your overview / in space.

It won't work if involves learning all them player corps / alliances in FW and their tickers though.



Issue wasn't about the consequences, it was about wanting to have all different NPC corps show up on the overview with their own tags (be it background or symbols). Which isn't that useful for many people, you can do it already with standings if you really want or just look at the tickers.

And fun part, if they shoot you first, it really doesn't matter anymore as at that point, it's carte blanche and fire all guns at them without any problems.

So the reason some NPC pirates will not shoot until you shoot at them is nothing to do with CONCORD.

It is because they are scared and are hoping you will leave them alone.