Market Discussions

I can't be arsed to look through 20 pages to see if this has been asked already...

How do I add stock so that I can see profit on that stock? Let's say I obtained 5,000 knickknacks at a cost of 5m isk total through some means (trade window, contract, looted a wreck, etc.) and then sold that 5k knickknacks for 15m total. That's 10m profit (not counting taxes and fees), however, eve-mogul just shows 0% profit because there is no actual buy history transactions on the item.

I do have an elite account, and I can see where I can remove stock, but no place to add stock

Is this to keep the leaderboards honest? What if I don't care about my standings? If you allow people to add stock and tell them that they will be exempt from leaderboards if they do, then I'm sure plenty of people would jump on that. Especially if you kept a isk total of stock manually added and profit margin on said stock.

Keep in mind, I could easily game your system (with slight risk) by having an alt put the stock on sale at some obscure station in a not so busy region with a crazy low price and then have my market trader immediately buy that stock at the extremely low price. This is just to tell EveMogul that I have said stock. Then I could move it to Jita to sell and appear to make an obscene amount of profit and top the leaderboards. Not that'd I'd do this, it isn't worth the effort to me - but it's a clear and easy method to step around your limitation of only using CCP's API.

Love the new additions. Quite a suprise coming back from vacation. Few things:

1) Cleared "completed order notification" when viewing completing orders. A more interactive way of doing that may be better: I looked at my completed orders without doing anything. When I logged to EVE a day later to actually update expired orders I forgot what they actually were and had to go looking at the completed orders and figure out which one was the last one I took care of. (Hard after a 2 week vacation).

2) Completed order notification should contain info whether order expired or was fulfilled.

3) Option to sort orders by expiry date.

4) An option to see more then 20 orders in a single page. Annoying to go through 380 of orders 20 at a time.

cheers.

few issues/suggestions for the orders page:

1) Sort by "remaining".

2) Indicator of which filter is selected.

3) Option for a more user friendly format of "expires" date. Instead of "2014/11/12" maybe " 5d 8h 10m".
Similarly on the order details tab instead of saying order issued on 2014/06/06 we could also have something like "order issued 23 days ago 5h 6 min ago". Looking it up on the calendar gets tedious.
Another solution would be to hover over the date and get "5d 8h 10m" that way.

4) Some sort of a way to search for orders expiring at a certain frame of time. So if for example I'm going away for the weekend and I want to know which orders expire then. Perhaps the calendar date filters we already have could be used?

5) "number of orders displayed" info on top?

6) page/tab/pop up or whatever with a short summary of how many orders each alt has at a glance. Ex: alt 1: 100 buy 50 sell alt 2: 50 buy alt 3: 24 sell.

7) On the order details page when you click order transactions and "tasks" you get item description. Not sure what "task" is supposed to be and getting item info on that is a bit confusing. I would propose that "task" could be changed to "hub price" and it would get item price from a trade hub.

8) option to save filter/search criteria currently selected for quick access.

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9) even though it's showing 50 orders at a time when I click "completed orders" I get "1-10". It should probably say: "completed orders" AND "1-50"

10) The combination of filters: "completed orders" AND "order is not archived" doesn't seem to be working.
It tells me I have 96 orders after applying those filters. When I dismiss one of those orders to archives and reload with applying those filters it still shows that order and tells me I have 96 orders even though I should have now 95.

11) We could use a way to archive multiple orders at a time. After my vacation I have loads of "completed orders" and after taking care of them in EVE I have to click one by one to dismiss them to archives. After that ideally I'd have a blank page in the "completed orders" page.

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12) "order complete" ntification doesn't contain any information as to which order that actually is. Owner/station/time/margin/range would be nice.

13) option to sort orders by "last modified".

Thanks for the great tool!

I would also like to see a feature that makes possible to add transactions manually. For example if I buy stuff via contracts it would help a lot if that cost could be manually added to the EVE-Mogul.

I have an elite account. Why do I have to wait 8+ hours for my transactions to update? It is currently 04:30 eve time, and the last item listed in my transaction log is at 20:08 eve time, with dozens of transactions since then.

What gives?

First off, nice tool. Thanks for your time on this.

I have have to agree with pushing for wanting to manually edit stocks (or setting a base-cost if unknown). Understanding the want to limit 'abuse' of this to essentially cook your books, what about simply having a warning on the (public) reports with something like 'Manual Stock Adjustment: +198,223,445.82 ISK' ? I too have stocks that are well over a month old (some are over two years old tbh) I know what my cost was/is on them and like to be able to see those profits included.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but when a price is unknown the profit is 0%, which KILLS the report anyways since I know, for instance, my averaged profit is well above 28% on my goods atm, yet eve-mogul reports 9-10%. Ironically maybe, this issue hurts new users of the platform the most, leading to many who don't investigate to think that eve-mogul is just inaccurate/misleading, trumping your try to make it trusted in the first place.

Not following the questions you're asking, if you're asking if it looks at your expenses and intake and just finds the difference, the answer is no. It tracks buy transactions, stores it as stock, and when you sell an item it uses your recorded stock price.



Please, if you could evemail me your account name I'll have a look.


As far as adding/editing stock, there's enough people wanting it I'll get it added in ASAP. ASAP meaning in probably 2 weeks once I get my other coworker started and my responsibilities have been reduced. With that change, I'll adjust the stock system quite a bit so it's easier for both you and the system to work with.

So to clarify and there are other people who are unaware how eve-mogul tracks profit is,it stores the original price of the bought item aka "stock" and when the said item is sold at the current market price it calculates the profit (or lack off) which it than adds up giving you the profit value. I hope this is correct, I personally calculate my profit via asset appreciation, my buy orders plus my sell orders plus my liquid isk and if any, stockpiles in my hangar, all at as near to the current market price as practical. Now I can see how this way would be prone to abuse for a public profit web board, as I could value that single piece of trit at a billion isk (although for private use, cheating like this would defeat the purpose of why people fake profits). So an accurate formula as to how eve-mogul calculates profit would be helpful.

API Pulls are rly rarely

Last API Pull:
2014-10-09 14:41:23

over 4h and still no new pull ...