Out of Pod Experience

Terrific online community but the learning curve and TOTAL lack of explanation of what to do in every single tutorial ( apart from the forums ) makes me decide not to buy time on this game because I would go crazy trying to work out how the xxxx to play this game.

Each to their own but not for me ! Uninstall time.

that's all good,
eve deliberately excludes the stupid and the weak willied.
not calling you stupid,


you might want a word with Pelé though.

Eve is more like reading a good book rather than riding a roller coaster. Or maybe more like writing a book.. I dunno.

You should at least go try and blow someone up or get blown up before you bail though.

Wow, You didn't get through one tutorial without having to come to the forums? Did you read what they had to say of just skim through the explanation? I got though every single one with no problems... I just don't see how someone could get hung up.

EVE is a long haul game and not for the "Instant gratification" generation.

The tutorial's not perfect, but it doesn't require coming to the forums for every single one. From last time I trained up an alt, most people asking for help in the rookie help need one or two pointers at most, if that.

It does require reading carefully everything that Aura says, everything that the career agents say. Click-click-click through the tutorial like one does in most games is a one way trip to frustrationville.

The tutorial doesn't hold your hand, which is good because the game doesn't either.

Moved to OOPE. Sorry to see you go. If you ever decide to return, there are plenty of people who would be happy to help you find your place in this world.

I disagree! Farmville does NOT take that much effort!

aaaaaaaaaand i just admitted to having played farmville.

FML

Frankly they should just scrap the current tutorial and return back to good'ol days where you started in space a pod in a middle of nowhere and tutorial was "that's a pirate, now shoot it" and "that's a rock, now mine it".

I think you should come back Marites Visande. The game is fun, more fun then even the forums. You should read what the tutorial agents are saying if you decide to do them though because Eve is a somewhat complected game. You should also look for a corporation to join.

Wow ... I started back in 2005, when tutorial was ... QUITE BASIC.

I dont even remember it after almost 10 years, but honestly, It was way RAW back then and I got on the game pretty quick.

My best friend invited me over, because he told me there was a game he didnt understand but enjoyed a lot about spaceships, I joined on and we both talked on the phone as we were playing.

I remember flying randomly until I realized it was a fly-by click game and confused at the weird bubbles in the map I suddenly popped up that gave me distances.

And I asked my friend " Uhhh ... what are you supposed to do here?"
He told me "I don´t know man! HAHAHA"

And then , it struck me like the COMET THAT CREATED THE MAW IN THE OGRE KINGDOMS ... And that was it, I began to chat with people ingame, for some reason someone tried to scam me for my free implant telling me he was going to give me a cool new industrial for it (LOL) but I knew back then he seemed a bit too eager and blocked him, and just went to do some missions. Rest is history.

If you actually need to UNDERSTAND every single aspect of a game off the tutorial you are taking the wrong approach in my humble opinion man, EVE doesnt work like that.

For weeks I remembered I "pimped" (in my mind) my frigate with BOTH shield booster and armor reppers, because logically you needed a booster for both (to my newbie mind anyway) .... It was bloody, until I decided to talk again to people INGAME.


You know, people, those players that have been playing, hang around and even sometimes answer your questions in here?If having to talk to others to understand the game, or read what other players say or explain about the game infringes your notion of a "perfect" or "logical" way to understand a game, you are taking a stance regarding EVE that is quite at odds with it.

If you believe, that issues like those DENOTE A FLAW in the game, the way it is presented and people like me and many others in this thread just show up with their intentions of clarifying these aspects of said game just reinforce the WRONGNESS of this game, then sir, you either need a paradigm shift and adjust to this game or avoid it like the plague.

I for one , would love to see you CHANGE your perspective, and enter into learning mode and begin to soak up in the intricacies of this sandbox, but I must admit this game is not every bodies cup of tea.

Eve is first a game of constant adaptation, evolving as time goes by and seeing the hard crusts at the edges.

The interface I must confess is a bit esoteric to some, and if you play this game with a CONCRETE MIND it is in essence THIS and at most will ALWAYS BE THAT ....

Now if you simply decide to ABSTRACT a bit out of the game and see it differently it can become ANYTHING, from this MESS to this other MESS and guess what, you might not understand a single thing of whats happening there, and thats ok. But posting those videos just to show the possibilities.

You can also become like this guy, He does a lot of very informative videos for people just starting into the game, he simply tries to explore eve at his own pace and records them for others to see.

You can also try listening to what this guy says ...

I´m digressing a bit, but I really hope you drink a beer, sip some tea, smoke some pot or anything that relaxes you, boot up your pc, log in , take a DEEP BREATH, try to leave everything you know about OTHER GAMES and MMOs , and slowly ACCEPT the fact not even the GREATEST TUTORIAL in the PLANET can even come close to the POTENTIAL this game offers you and you can´t just "learn" everything (not even the basics) in a few days and that you NEED to READ/TALK and even METAGAME a bit to thrive in here.

The Community WILL ALWAYS SNEER IN HATRED at people saying "MEH THIS GAME BLOWS IT SUX TROLOLOL EXCEL SHEETS IN SPACE FREELANCER WAS BETTER LELELELELELE" And I KNOW this isnt what you said, but it ends up sounding the same (if you go deeper you will know this).

And oh boy, my only warning to you, is get a THICK skin, know eve works on a TOUGH LOVE approach (to put it mildly) and psychopathic "pirates of evil" here are usually people that just want to shoot stuff up for FUN and if you actually take your time to know them, they are very nice and fine people.

As a personal tip, never EVER cry FOUL about anything PVP Related (Ship explosions and VIOLENCING YOUR ASSETS) done INGAME, specially in the forums, it marks you as a ... "target" , specially when someone blows you up out of nowhere in Hi sec

Grow a bit in Hi sec, go into low sec, pew pew with others or get blown up some times, be free ...

And I am digressing again , back in point , I think I explained (hope it was enough) why NO TUTORIAL ever here will let you understand everything.

From The Politics done in Nullspace, to the lowest solo miner in the most safe spot in Hi sec, there´s just so many play styles that knowing how to move around is practically worthless since it´s a given after a while.

Think your way in here. There´s no secret purple loot to be gained by raiding and even high end gear WILL GET BLOWN UP and turned into dust.

TLDR: Find people to play with and learn from. No tutorial needed.

PD: There are many corps here in the game that help newbie players get the "feeling" of the many possibilities the game offers, like EVE-U for example or go the Corp Recruitment channel and state your intentions of joining a newbie friendly corp.

iff you have questions, Ingame Mail me, I will be happy to answer what I can!!!

Cheers!
o/