EVE New Citizens Q&A

Did I take a wrong turn at EVE Communication Center and end up in the bad part of General Discussion? I could have sworn I was in New Citizens Q&A. Halp!

Dude... I looked at your killboard.

You have been suicide ganked twice (losing the pod both times).
Both times you could have avoided it by using a mining barge that is NOT anti-tanked (see: cargo-hold extenders and rigs make it EASIER for people to kill you and do not increase your ore hold).


And you have been caught by a gate-camp twice... in low-sec... which is very much not safe and could have been avoided had you looked up map statistics or been flying a proper ship (hint: unfit rookie ships and PvE-fit battlecruisers are not "proper ships").


Finally... "griefing" in EVE is a very specific term. It means that you are being actively harassed by a person (or group of persons) over a long period of time for no reasonable reason despite your efforts to avoid it.

Being ganked once or twice by randoms does not fall into that definition.
Running into a gatecamp in the same system does not fall into the definition.
Losing your pod certainly does not fall into that definition.


By the way...

- suicide ganking in high-sec always results in the destruction of the offender. However it is your job to protect yourself in any way you can. CONCORD will only provide retribution for each individual act of "illegal" hostility... but never protect the "victim."

- you do not NEED to have implants. They are a "nice to have" item but not necessary to actually play it. Try mastering evasion tactics before you get expensive stuff.

Or you could, you know, try doing that yourself, or with friends.

Part of the appeal of EVE is the fact that the players provide the content. Honestly for an MMO it's a perfect design decision, and likely one of the reasons it's lasted this long. Give players tools, and the opportunity to use them, and they'll entertain themselves for far longer, and more consistently than an overworked skeleton crew providing PVE content can hope to as in the more mainstream MMOs.

Actually if you didn't notice those were all old ships from 2 years ago....next subject.

This has nothing with dien...I could careless infact I am not even mad. I am trying to bring attention you guys a mechanic that is completely broken and needs to be re-evaluated. So, keep trolling I dont even care....actually it makes me happy. Keep the troll posts coming.

So you were mining in ships from 2 years ago... and then lost them over the last 2 months (I am looking at your killboard right now, all API verified)... after you had 2 years to re-fit and re-rig them for better survival...

*frysquints*

... so you are not a newbie with perception problems... you're a bittervet trolling the newbie forums.

Ah well... Poe's Law...


What mechanic is that?

Blindly jumping into low-sec gatecamps?

Or mining in ships that are fit not only expensively, but made easier to be killed?


Because neither are mechanical problems. They are a case of players painting bright "SHOOT ME" signs on their heads.


Again... ganking =/= griefing except under special circumstances.

And yes... if someone does not like you enough then nothing will stop you from being ganked. That isn't the point behind tanking your ship though.
It is to make you a LESS DESIRABLE target compared to someone else.

By the way... a Procurer with only a Tech 1 Damage Control, Tech 1 Medium Shield Extender, and no skills applied can easily top 29,000 effective hitpoints.
That is WAY more than your Retriever had... meaning it is both too much effort and too unprofitable to gank. Huzzah! Newbie is safe by virtue of being worthless!!


Try ganking yourself (for profit). It's a little less simple and easy than you think.

Please review this, in particular section 7. The game is designed to allow what you are referring to as "Griefing," it by definition of the game rules is not considered griefing.

http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/EVE-Online-New-Pilot-FAQ.pdf

Actually, I just re-subbed maybe a month ago? But, one thing I noticed which is drastically different between now and then is podding has increased....gankers in hisec has also increased. Yes, I can be doing all these things that they do but I choose not to be a Pirate. Also, to clarify for the people who keep misunderstanding my statement. Ihave no problem with "griefing/ganking" it is a very vital role in any hardcore game. If you don't believe me ...come play Darkfall with me...I will show you how to properly grief someone. Let me ask you all a question.....the griefing mechanic as it stands now why do you think it is working as intended?

The funny thing is that, per usual, the low IQ clowns (proven by their low IQ actions and logic) then try to troll others (because that's the only reply low IQ's can come up with) going "lololol". The fact remains that they're the ones who keep doing it wrong and keep not learning from their mistakes. So you can go "itrollu.jpg" all you want, frantically hoping to save face but in reality it makes you look even more of a clown.


You chose to not prepare, not read, not ask, not think and not adapt. And thus you died.... repeatedly. Smart people would realise that you can't troll yourself out of that one. It's very difficult to "grief" in a competitive pvp sandbox.

Nevermind, got trolled.

As a game's population grows, so does the raw number of people performing certain activities. However... that does not mean that these things are more "common." The statistics can remain relatively the same (in relation to the overall server population) or even drop and it will still SEEM like the occurrences of certain activities are increasing.



podding =/= griefing

(again... "griefing" is a very specific term in EVE regardless of what you might think it is. Only CCP's definition applies here)


It has always been this way for some 10 odd years. To pod a person is just another mechanic to deal more economic damage on a target/enemy. And get a corpse.

Plus... newbies effectively have "free clones" until they reach 900,000 skillpoints... so they can be podded as often as they like without any penalty or cost (sans implants).