EVE General Discussion

That is one of the main issues with eve right now. What can be done for small groups (and new players) that doesn't benefit large groups (and veterans) even more.

Hopefully CCP will revamp sov mechanics so they do promote a nullsec with both small and large groups.

Talk about a broken record.

You know this is never, ever gonna happen right? CCP isn't about to re-write a whole game that works because of a handful of people who'd like EVE to be like star trek. And should never happen in the 1st place, gates work fine.

Another question emerges. If one loves Star Trek's space flight model, why is one not playing Star Trek Online?

Yeah great idea, the entire of (insert massive null sec entity) just instantly appearing anywhere at any time..

To try and start up a new entity with the aim of taking on any of the existing entities is in my own opinion for all intent purposes impossible.

You need these things in place before you can even consider making the attempt.

-Massive Isk Reserves
-Massive Isk Generation to run a SRP (Ship Replacement Program)
-24/7 Coverage
- A small number of Titans for bridges
- A good amount of Super and Titan Pilots
-Hundreds of Capital Pilots
-Hundreds more Subcap pilots with a decent amount of SP so they can fly a varied T2 fitted fleet doctrine.
-A small number of highly experienced FC's which is a very difficult thing to get
-Spies, Spies and More Spies as you can guarantee that the other entities will have them in yours
-A logistical backbone to allow you to get Ships / Mods / Resources to your staging areas quickly as well as doing all the boring stuff like putting up towers / fuelling towers
- An Industrial arm to replace Capital losses as you do not want to be dependant on others
- A Diplomatic Arm to make friends as your going to need them.
- External Website Site that uses the API to track of well everything
- External Comms
- a very small number of people who are mad enough to organise and keep track of everything I have listed above and lots of other things I have missed.

What you have to remember is that most experience null sec FC's (well the good ones) are already with those entities and trust me, good experienced FC's who have fought large scale null sec fights are a rare breed.

Most Titan and Super pilots are already with these entities, most Super and Titan production are done by these entities and you need Sov to build Supers and Titans.

Chicken and Egg scenario.

Now you can have all these things and still get completely wiped out.. just ask members of Test when they created the HBC.

You know you want it.

I've written elsewhere: take everything you have seen in Star Trek and imagine all travel by Eve gate mechanics. Wonder what the plot lines would have been like then.

Having to learn to hunt for your food might be scary at first but in the long term it's rewarding.

Except that the outcome of this particular fight was HERO winning it by sheer tenacity. Not exactly the 'fixed' result that was expected.

I can never tell if your posts are serious or not, apologies!

That was my impression but I'd have liked to be wrong.

Have we genuinely reached the point where the only material risk to huge entities is from themselves falling apart/boredom?

I very much agree alot with the OP. Game play has become so much easier in many ways that constantly complaining about everything doesnt look right.

I myself are partly confused and partly concerned about how null is set-up by now. I am returning after a longer break and when i left it was basically the time when the big war between BoB and everyone else had roughly ended - so bear with me if i make a comparision to some things all the way back.

In general the game has improved so much on all the little things that where really a pain years ago. I do believe there is a lot of room for small groups and entities - just dont expect that anything gets handed out to you.

My corp was a small one back then and lived deliberately in low sec with the 'future' goal of maybe moving one day into null - not that much different to what happens today. The big exception for me today is that i still have some pride left - its null by own force and power and diplo - or it isnt at all.

Thats where i see the huge problem today - smaller entities go out and pay rent (formerly known as 'being pets') -deliberately giving up their freedom and power instead of playing the diplo/alliance game themselves. Every entity supporting the growth or stability of another bigger entity didnt really understand the power of the small people. As long as the 'big ones' find - pardon my language now - enough idiots to pay for space without any guarantees nor full access to everything in it nothing will change for anyone. If anyone would sign such a lease-agreement in real life they would know how silly that would be - but in eve obviously all logic and pride has vanished.

There is no guarantee that a lot will change if people wouldnt rent - but it would for sure not fill those pockets the easy way. Same goes for combat - it follows the same principles. Stack a few smaller things into something bigger, backstab at many points at a time - the pool of opportunities isnt less filled than it was years ago imho. But getting blown up by entity A and then blindly buying my replacement ship on the market (probability is high its entities A trader) is hillarious at best.

Changes are best started right in your own yard - if you are lucky you give an example to others and they want to join in or collaborate with you.

Hmmm.... perhaps, good sir, you are not familiar with the life cycle of sockeyed salmon, who, prior to their final act of spawning... SWIM UPSTREAM!!

[dun dun dun dunnnnn!!!!!]


Perhaps Eve can be the sockeyed salmon of space!

I'm gonna post the same reply I post every time I see a thread asking for "more for one group that is small/noob/whatev because too small/new/whatev":