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Dodging Wardecs

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1141 - 2014-09-19 19:16:25 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
You and your ilk like to ignore the obvious. I would not be surprised, if you could not stuff in the refridgerater, because it's the one place you refuse to look. Even though everyone is tell you where to look.
Then stop replying to his troll ass, look at his post history. He just wants attention and will argue from the ignorant point of view just to get it.
This man ...
... has it figured out.

*keeps pointing at Veers*


It's not polite to point at people for an extended period of time. Thanks.
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#1142 - 2014-09-19 20:44:30 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

As usual, it simply you wanting to have your cake and eat it to. Your all for using game mechanics to get what you want as long as it benifits you. The second it doesnt give you what you want you come to forums crying about earning this or people always trying to change the game to suite them. Now your wanting to change the game to benifit you.


You never pay attention. I'm a pve player (you know this because I've been satying it here forever), this discussion has nothing to do with me personally. But unlike you I know right from wrong, and in a game where one side pays a price, the other side should too.

Quote:

Why not take your own advise you have given others in the past and stop asking ccp to change the game because you dont like the mechanics.


All game mechanics aren't equal. And even if they were, I'm not seeking some advantage, changing war dec mechanics and npc corp mechanics to be reasonable isn't going to help me kill a Guristas Battleship or scan down a complex any faster.

As i said, there is right and there is wrong. The current mechanics are wrong (for a sandbox game where choices are supposed to matter, the choice to form a player corp should come with a consequence, as should the choice to stay in an npc corp). Good mechanics foster good gameplay (that benefits the entire game community), bad ones (like dec-dodging) stifle interesting game play, which hurts us all.

You’re the one talking stupid garbage about earning this or earning that. Right now the mechanic allows the corp. to disband. This has been this way for a long time. People want to wardec small corps that aren’t skilled enough to fight back I’m all for it.

What I am not for is people crying because they use a valid game mechanic to avoid the wardec.

Should you still want to kill them then use the gank mechanic to kill them and HTFU.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1143 - 2014-09-19 20:50:08 UTC
This thread sucks.
Solecist Project
#1144 - 2014-09-19 21:57:05 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
malcovas Henderson wrote:
You and your ilk like to ignore the obvious. I would not be surprised, if you could not stuff in the refridgerater, because it's the one place you refuse to look. Even though everyone is tell you where to look.
Then stop replying to his troll ass, look at his post history. He just wants attention and will argue from the ignorant point of view just to get it.
This man ...
... has it figured out.

*keeps pointing at Veers*


It's not polite to point at people for an extended period of time. Thanks.

*keeps pointing at Veers*

Wardec me if you don't like it.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1145 - 2014-09-19 22:01:20 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:


*keeps pointing at Veers*

Wardec me if you don't like it.


That would be epic! How about I wardecc your 1 man corp without doing any research or target selection beforehand, and then come and make a tear-laced forum post about Eve being broken when you roll the corp and inflict a 30-1 economic defeat on me? Now that is elite PvP!
Solecist Project
#1146 - 2014-09-19 22:10:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:


*keeps pointing at Veers*

Wardec me if you don't like it.


That would be epic! How about I wardecc your 1 man corp without doing any research or target selection beforehand, and then come and make a tear-laced forum post about Eve being broken when you roll the corp and inflict a 30-1 economic defeat on me? Now that is elite PvP!

Dude....

I am -10.

If you dec me ...
... you do me a favour............


You're just scared .......


*keeps pointing at Veers for Ralph to see*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1147 - 2014-09-19 22:13:37 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:


*keeps pointing at Veers*

Wardec me if you don't like it.


That would be epic! How about I wardecc your 1 man corp without doing any research or target selection beforehand, and then come and make a tear-laced forum post about Eve being broken when you roll the corp and inflict a 30-1 economic defeat on me? Now that is elite PvP!

Dude....

I am -10.

If you dec me ...
... you do me a favour............


You're just scared .......


*keeps pointing at Veers for Ralph to see*



You call it scared. I call it commitment to affecting positive change in the game through working with other capsuleers in a collaborative environment. I don't wardecc or try to kill people in highsec, instead I try to work with them, help them understand the game, and improve as a pilot. So no, I won't wardecc you, but I will be happy to answer any questions you have about fitting, PvE, the Eve economy, etc... and work on improving our relationship. Now isn't that more fun than ganking/wardeccing people to make them cry?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1148 - 2014-09-19 22:13:41 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:

What I am not for is people crying because they use a valid game mechanic to avoid the wardec.



It's not a valid game mechanic. The dev blog makes that pretty obvious.

Right now it's being used to bypass the surrender mechanic since dec dodging is free and instant. Since it's being used to bypass an intended mechanic, that pretty clearly makes it an exploit.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1149 - 2014-09-19 22:14:15 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:


*keeps pointing at Veers*

Wardec me if you don't like it.


That would be epic! How about I wardecc your 1 man corp without doing any research or target selection beforehand, and then come and make a tear-laced forum post about Eve being broken when you roll the corp and inflict a 30-1 economic defeat on me? Now that is elite PvP!


Beers, the day I see you engage in anything resembling somewhat impressive PVP, I will eat my hat.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Solecist Project
#1150 - 2014-09-19 22:16:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Veers the Coward wrote:
Lots of bullshit


Coward...

Let me make this clear for you ...

You dec me ...
... try to fight me solo ...
... and I will whip the imaginary space floor with your candy ass ........


*points at Veers*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#1151 - 2014-09-19 22:18:45 UTC
And not only that ...
... I will make it a mutual foreverwar ........

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1152 - 2014-09-19 22:21:15 UTC
Stopped reading for 2 days, 10 pages pop up and I can only read a few more cause I am so tired. Lack of tears and whining was giving me withdraw symptoms .


1. Get the F*** out of highsec, null and low fulfill your shooty shoot needs. Can always go back to Counter Strike if you want zero consequences to your actions, respawn and keep on shooting.

2. Stop wardecing random targets, do you honestly think someone is going to pay your demands? You know what that makes...a target. You wardec them again, again, and again....cause in a sandbox with no limit outside closing or hopping what the F*** stops you from harassing the same players for lol ransom. There is nothing stopping you from "honoring" your agreement and EVE tends to bring out the worse side in humans over the good side. Go shoot red red crosses or gank a freighter, play the market for isk. I wouldn't pay a ransom, would hit self destruct and start pulling my implants....your killmail will still show you failed to kill the target (unless it was very thin skin low hitpoints to a high alpha), but your peacock feathers will rise up like a boner cause "you killed the the target" and feel proud...smart people know, unless it says final blow you didn't actually kill it you just where at the scene of the crime.

3. You want to live in highsec, protected by CONCORD just as much as your target, but you are willing to pull the trigger unlike your target? Carebear, with teeth. You are protected, you are not a thug, you are nothing but a disgruntled angry bear looking for something that is not really shooting back while not being shot at. You want isk...red cross NPC, freighters and industrials, mining/industry/market....there are other ways then being the fake profession "bounty hunter" "pirate" "thug" or "bad azz" that do not actually exist with nothing, ABOSLUTELY NOTHING to prevent you from coming back at them in full force after they pay and just crushing like a grape leaving them nothing; where is the "Gentleman's Agreement" for a set time where you don't attack them back after a surrender...oh right it doesn't exist and EVE tends to bring out the worst in people so they mostly one man corp multi-box cause its very hard to trust anybody. Highsec is "limited" PVP as lowsec is "moderate PVP with consequences" and null is "everything goes, you risk it but no consequences except what you bring and lose" .

Simplest fix for corps, 50 million to create a corp with scaling cost (just like the wardec). EVE wiki

Quote:
Creating the Corporation

There is a nonrefundable fee of 1,599,800 ISK for creating a corporation.


Wardecs used to be back alley whore cheap few years back, but got raised because of the cheap price and massive dec-ability....raise the price to form the corp equal to the dec cost. Even if you dec them, they lose just as much as you do....now you both decide smarter if its better to 1) Target the corp 2) Drop Corp 3) Reform the Corp 4) Re-dec the corp 5) ad nausem repeat. Same price, same wrist cut, both hurt. Resulting in smarter actions instead of insistent whining and threadnaughts for pointless "broken mechanic features" you can't seem to understand because someone is basically refusing to fight back when you can just shoot them at anytime when 1) CONCORD can shoot back or 2) Player can shoot back (depending on your choice).

As for the whine about sec hit somewhere around page 48 before I started to fall asleep...its to keep you in your place, even in lowsec. Go grind it to 0, you are safe all the way to 1.0 systems or are you afraid of going some place where someone can shoot back? Yeah, that's what I thought...zero consequence to your actions, but want bad azz charisma without the grind or you can stop podding cause they don't shoot back, just the ship you already blew up.

Most whiners in the thread, build a bridge and get over it already. Someone insulted you? Gank them, otherwise just ignore them with a block cause you won't get respect from them. 7 Billion people on the planet, nobody is special not even you inside a game. Its a game, you can ignore people or hurt them, but there will be consequences to your actions if you are the aggressor.
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#1153 - 2014-09-19 22:23:21 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
And not only that ...
... I will make it a mutual foreverwar ........


Forever war that was a good book.


I get the feeling you two are looking to derail the thread.


I would suggest a room, but I'm reluctant to do so as it might result in broken furniture.
Solecist Project
#1154 - 2014-09-19 22:24:10 UTC
Would you prefer the -10 to dec you, Veers?

So you can coward out?

How's your Quest for removal of PvP from HighSec going, btw?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#1155 - 2014-09-19 22:25:03 UTC
Grog Aftermath wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
And not only that ...
... I will make it a mutual foreverwar ........


Forever war that was a good book.


I get the feeling you two are looking to derail the thread.


I would suggest a room, but I'm reluctant to do so as it might result in broken furniture.

No, this is perfectly on topic.

It's just meta.

Feel free to dec me too, if you don't like it .......

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#1156 - 2014-09-19 22:25:28 UTC
Aqriue wrote:

Wardecs used to be back alley ***** cheap few years back, but got raised because of the cheap price and massive dec-ability



Someone else who didn't read the dev blog.

Wardecs were changed because they were too weak, the dec shield exploit allowed people to make themselves immune to wardecs.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1157 - 2014-09-19 22:25:59 UTC
Aqriue wrote:
A bunch of stuff that's been addressed.


Yes, I did read your wall of text that brought nothing new to the table. Thanks for playing the "ignore, argue, rinse and repeat" game.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#1158 - 2014-09-19 22:26:51 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Would you prefer the -10 to dec you, Veers?

So you can coward out?

How's your Quest for removal of PvP from HighSec going, btw?


Whatever makes you happy, love, though it would be a rather poor choice. I would simply properly use the game mechanics to roll the corp, and proudly state that Eve is WAD. And for the record, I support PvP in highsec. I just happen to think that CONCORD should retain it's role as the proper protector of highsec, and intervene to stop aggression, which is exactly what happens now. Once again, Eve WAD.
Solecist Project
#1159 - 2014-09-19 22:28:02 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Aqriue wrote:
A bunch of stuff that's been addressed.


Yes, I did read your wall of text that brought nothing new to the table. Thanks for playing the "ignore, argue, rinse and repeat" game.

Cowards don't dare deccing the lone -10.... :(

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Solecist Project
#1160 - 2014-09-19 22:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Would you prefer the -10 to dec you, Veers?

So you can coward out?

How's your Quest for removal of PvP from HighSec going, btw?


Whatever makes you happy, love, though it would be a rather poor choice. I would simply properly use the game mechanics to roll the corp, and proudly state that Eve is WAD. And for the record, I support PvP in highsec. I just happen to think that CONCORD should retain it's role as the proper protector of highsec, and intervene to stop aggression, which is exactly what happens now. Once again, Eve WAD.

So you admit you're a coward.
And a liar, too.

*points at Veers for being a coward and a liar*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia