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Can you recover a biomassed toon?

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-11 21:49:42 UTC
A friend of mine biomassed his 25 million SP character when he realised that as a successful hard working man with a wife, children and an active social life he was spending his free time with the worlds basement dwellers and had started to hate himself.

He now realises that it was a mistake and he wants back into the game so he can interact with people less fortunate than him so that he never rests on his laurals or takes his life for granted.


Is it gone forever or can CCP get it back for him
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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#2 - 2011-12-11 21:52:54 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
A friend of mine biomassed his 25 million SP character when he realised that as a successful hard working man with a wife, children and an active social life he was spending his free time with the worlds basement dwellers and had started to hate himself.

He now realises that it was a mistake and he wants back into the game so he can interact with people less fortunate than him so that he never rests on his laurals or takes his life for granted.


Is it gone forever or can CCP get it back for him


as I recall...

if he acts fast its possible it can be recovered, but if it goes to downtime I think its a no-go
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-12-11 21:53:48 UTC
Thanks mate. it might be gone then as it was 2 months ago
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Embrace My Hate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-11 21:58:02 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Thanks mate. it might be gone then as it was 2 months ago


Petition petition petition.
Lauren Hellfury
Super Happy Awesome Fun Times
#5 - 2011-12-11 22:03:17 UTC
Yup. Petition. IIRC they can do it with a sufficient reason so long as the char name has not been reused.


Link name plox? Smile

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-12-11 22:05:10 UTC
thanks for the info. The Petition has been up for a week and no posties of the name as then it really will be gone. 
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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2011-12-11 22:05:32 UTC
Lauren Hellfury wrote:
Yup. Petition. IIRC they can do it with a sufficient reason so long as the char name has not been reused.


Link name plox? Smile


hmmmm
2 months ago......

something tells me incarna rage may not be sufficient enough reason.

but they are desperate for subs Blink
Ai Shun
#8 - 2011-12-11 22:39:28 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
A friend of mine biomassed his 25 million SP character when he realised that as a successful hard working man with a wife, children and an active social life he was spending his free time with the worlds basement dwellers and had started to hate himself.

He now realises that it was a mistake and he wants back into the game so he can interact with people less fortunate than him so that he never rests on his laurals or takes his life for granted.


Is it gone forever or can CCP get it back for him


Why do some players somehow think that deleting characters when quitting an online, subscription based game is a good idea?

Hopefully one day an MMO developer will create a system where they simply flag the character and hide it from the system as if it never existed and then charge double the character transfer fee to recover it. Where a player could do it themselves from account management.

Call it a tax on foolish impulses.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-12-11 22:39:42 UTC

So his wife left him, hu ?
Jacob Stiller
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-11 22:54:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacob Stiller
I vaguely remember reading other threads on recovering biomassed characters. IIRC, what ultimately happens is that you get the character back stripped of all assets. Possibly isk as well, but that is just a single number to store so I don't really see why they'd ditch that yet keep info on your standings and skills. Your physical assets, however, can potentially represent a large information footprint so they would have an incentive to delete that.
Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#11 - 2011-12-11 22:59:12 UTC
I don't get why people delete their toons when leaving an mmo...

I haven't even deleted my character I used to play with in my achaea.com times... I may wanna play that game one day again, but wait... What was my password there? D:

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Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-12-11 22:59:19 UTC
I can't comment on assets as I had given them all away but I can confirm that I got my characters back within less than 24h of writing a petition (names were not taken and I had sufficient free character slots open).

However, I never received a reply to the petition - just noticed the restored characters when logging in the next day.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-12-11 23:02:27 UTC
Thanks for this information gents ill pass it on to him. if he gets it back minus any asstes ill shout him a battleship and let him get back on his feet
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Sera Nido
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-12-11 23:57:17 UTC
the only conceivable reason to delete something is if you need the space it is occupying for something else.
if you stop playing, you will not need any character slots, so why make an effort to delete something CCP will, for no effort or cost what so ever, keep forever*?

*eve is dying
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#15 - 2011-12-12 00:09:54 UTC
Sera Nido wrote:
the only conceivable reason to delete something is if you need the space it is occupying for something else.
if you stop playing, you will not need any character slots, so why make an effort to delete something CCP will, for no effort or cost what so ever, keep forever*?

*eve is dying


Have you ever downloaded dirty, dirty pr0n, then deleted it because you felt bad.. only to regret it the next time you're all alone on that saturday night, with no plans for the evening?

Same thing.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-12-12 00:21:03 UTC

They should charge him 50 bucks.

It's a learning tax.
Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#17 - 2011-12-12 00:38:57 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

They should charge him 50 bucks.

It's a learning tax.



and you should stop talking


Look at everyones elses contribution and then look at your own
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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-12-12 00:42:17 UTC
I didn't think you could recover chars.

Then again, I have no idea why anyone would delete their char. I suppose cancelling the subscription should be good enough.
Ai Shun
#19 - 2011-12-12 00:47:27 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

They should charge him 50 bucks.

It's a learning tax.



and you should stop talking


Look at everyones elses contribution and then look at your own


I don't know if it is a learning tax; but your buddy did something rather stupid. This is now going to cost CCP a few man hours of answering his petition, checking what can and should be done and so forth. Which could have been avoided if your buddy had not biomassed (With a waiting period for confirmation!) his character when he decided to walk away. He essentially cut his own nose to spite his face.

Now yes, possibly he did it because he wanted a clean break and could not imagine going back to it. I just don't understand why somebody would purposefully and deliberately destroy something when you walk away from it. That seems stupid to me.

On the flip side, of course, if he comes back the cost of getting him his character back could very well be offset by subscription revenue gained when, with no character to return to, might not be there. So swings and roundabouts.

But I'd support an automated system that would allow this for a fee. Not a learning tax, but at least an understanding that there is a cost to the choices we make.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-12-12 01:02:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Karn Dulake wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

They should charge him 50 bucks.

It's a learning tax.



and you should stop talking


Look at everyones elses contribution and then look at your own


That's a very smart answer. And it gets double points because what others say is a measure.
But not only that, you're totally ignoring the fact that i've made a very valid comment.

Anyway, even if you're an idiot ...

They once wrote that every deleted toon still gets stored somewhere.

It's perfectly fair to charge for recovering the deleted toon,
simply because the guy deleted it on purpose and there's no real reason to bring it back.


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But I'd support an automated system that would allow this for a fee. Not a learning tax, but at least an understanding that there is a cost to the choices we make.


That's basically what i meant. Maybe it's the language barrier.
The "learning" i was talking about refers to "now you know, stupid. costs you 50 bucks"


That said, as the OPs response to my post was rather emotional,
the idiot who deleted his toon was probably himself anyway.
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