Wormholes

So if CCP dont RollBack with the chnages they made, they should male it more worth to go into W-Space.
It is only a game of how much ISK you ern in W-space. (Like everywere in EVE).

Thats why Player move out of the W-Space. Becasue the Risk is to high for what they get out of the W-Space.
I Think the People will move Bach into the Holes if more Sleeper Sites Will Spawn.
Or more Belts will spawn.
Or they bring more stuff in W-Space like.
- T2 Materials Belts for Harvesting them , like the normal Belts.
- ICE Belts..... (Why not ?)
- Sansha Sites ? (Because the Sansha start there Incrusion out of the W-Space )
- Different Sleeper Loot for every WH-Class. So every Wormhole has there Sleeper Loot, and you need Products from all WH Classes for the Production of T3 Ships.

Okay... many of These ideas are from other Player and Corps. As i said , if they encrease the Income in W-Space Player will move back.

Sorry for my bad english.

Greatings from Austria

Xtrah > *dont evict PVP entities*

Scrapping this would be better since it now is basically farm 24/7 and if your sites are out you look for pvp, makes for a stale and boring environment.

Gotta go afk now, sry.

Go into corp contacts. Delete all Blues. Congrats you have X more targets.

(Everything expressed is my personal opinion)

I think we need to look at the game as a whole, not just w-space in isolation.

Fewer players log into the game now compared to the peak period with Retribution. This also affects w-space. At the same time, 0.0 is stagnant and offers vast amounts of "safe" areas to farm in. Even though the potential isk/hour is higher in w-space, 0.0 is considered more convenient and has less constraints on skillpoints required, group size etc. Lowsec has also seen some love recently.

Hyperion brought some changes, most of them good, but none of them offered significant incentives for new groups to venture into W-space. There was no "fountain of youth" to lure the colonists to undock.

The Corp and POS mechanics is a major barrier. Sure, it ensures that trust is extremely important for wormholers, creating tight bonds and friendships that last a long time. It also requires the player to make a greater leap than going from highsec -> Low/0.0. "How many do I have to trust?...."

W-space can easily sustain 2x or even 3x the current inhabitants before living/farming space becomes an issue. Everyone that wants to, and can group up, has access to the best sites/anoms/"plex" in the game. Sure, most of the desireable effect/static combinations are occupied, but "we have grown out of our current system, and need to fight our way up" isn't really happening a lot.

Higher numbers would create tension and conflict in itself. I don't see that happening unless wormholers organized a major effort to get pve+pvp corps to move in so that we eventually could fight them. Even doing that would most likely not have a noticable impact.

Bottom line - suggestions:
-Wait for a replacement for the current POS', help give feedback to ensure it is less player-hostile than it currently is
-Ask/support efforts for actual new content in w-space, i.e. sites & loot you actually want to scout and fight for. The ghost sites offer too little of a total reward. Imagine instead a few sleeper home systems, only connectable by roaming wormholes. Moonless, so you stay in your ship or get out while you can.
-Wait for Corp/alliance overhaul, so roles/security are improved
-Ask that new K-space (New new Eden) is separate from existing K-space, only accessible through wormholes. Build stargates between the New new Eden systems.

Wormholes are so dead that i'm moving from a C5 to a C2. If CCP aren't going to add new content to make wormholes interesting again, it makes more sense to live in a wormhole that has easier access to k-space, as that's where CCP's focus is.


Next to nothing, it's pretty much all on CCP. One group can't bring about change with happy thoughts and telling everyone to play the way they say... Unless you want a big CFC style coalition to dominate wormhole space.


Snip, Please refrain from profanities and quoting them - ISD Atomic Dove

Honestly? Without CCP?

Pull your corp apart, designate 5 leaders, people who are the best, and have the most patience. Make them form 5 corps, and divvy up the members between those corps. Each will then have a fleet size of 5 to 10. Now comes the hard part - make every corp recruit about 20 newbros, and train them up. Take people with +- 10M SP. Teach them how to make ISK, teach them how to pvp effectively. After about a year, about 10 newbros from each corp will make good pilots, and the rest will either quit or still be bad.

Congratulations, you have created 4more decent entities, thereby creating content. This post is not aimed parricularly at fremen, but I'm sure lazerhawks are large and experienced enough to be able to do something like that.

But yeah, since hyperion, holes are rolled by battleship.

Don't use big words to try and seem smart if you don't know what they mean.



Like Borschty said, split players up. Break down the massive corps into smaller entities so that people will be more likely to fight. Right now, if a small corp rolls into HK or LZHWK, it'll be an instant close. If either of those groups was a more manageable size, then there's a higher chance they'd fight.

^ You sure love "content" but what do you mean by "content"?

Title changed because gentrification doesn't mean what you thought it meant

So, firstly it would be nice if CCP would make WH pvp into more of a rock-paper-scissors sort of game as Eve is supposed to be. There should be a highly mobile platform to counter the T3 gangs. Right now the Ishtar is a fairly decent counter, but only if you can get them to jump into you.

This is why I support the idea that maybe the speed you are going when you hit "enter wormhole" should somehow determine your distance from the other side. This could perhaps allow an Ishtar gang to hit the WH at 1.7 km/s and then maybe spawn on the other side ~35km from the hole or something? That's about a 1:20 modifier. Of course at that ratio frigs could spawn at 100km+. Obviously there would need to be some sort of negative logarithmic curve to the distance so you didn't have extremely remote spawns.

More changes like this would be great, but they require CCP intervention. The current pvp meta is so stale. Lets hope the upcoming T3 rebalance works as intended.

As for what we can do as players, I say we need to just bring in more people. INSRT is trying to be a good citizen of WH space by accepting adorable newbros who will hopefully go out and shoot/get shot at by people. In the end what we really need is more people who really live in wormholes, not just farm their home sites. Even groups that farm down the chain are fine with me because at least then there's a reason for gank fleets to go out scanning and pewing.

Farmers > Gankers > Apex Pvp fleets.

This is why CCP should make WH static farming more enticing somehow. At the same time, I think that there should be more NPC's that point in these sites, so that the farmers can be violenced more often.

Since we now have frig holes, perhaps we could have frig-only sites in wormholes? This idea would be an anom similar to the burner missions that would limit the hull type and be reasonably lucrative to run. Perhaps they could be Anoikis-wide and occur in a similar fashion to the ghost sites (i.e. random) but be much more common?

Finally, we should come together as a community to create content. The "Danger Zone" roams with HK were alot of fun, and we all got to meet and hang out. Perhaps we could arrange more content along these lines for wormholers? Perhaps someone could schedule another thunderdome event for people to come to a certain WH and PVP?

Most important though is that we have our WH CSM reps sing for us. Corbexx has majestically sang a Tribute for us, now it's the new guy's turn. Hit me up in-game for Ts3 info. If you tell me what song ahead of time, I'll get you background music.