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Can't use an agent when I should be able to.

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Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-11 18:04:30 UTC
I just joined a new corp and they are based in Caldari space, previously I was living in Gallente and running missions for Federation Navy. I also ran missions for Minmatar agents in the past. Because of this I have roughly -3 standing both with Amarr and Caldari.

I started running level 1 missions to try and get myself up to level 4 missions when I noticed even after I had run quite a few I could not progress to even a level 2 agent and from what I am reading I should be able to. What am I missing?

For this one particular agent (level 2) I read this in the info: "Your personal standings must be -1.9 or higher toward this agent, its faction, or its corporation in order to use this agent's services."

Now, my agent standing is 0.00. Faction standing is -3.04. Corp standing is 2.54.

From the use of 'or' in the agent requirements as far as I can tell I should be allowed to use this agent. So why can't I?!
Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#2 - 2011-12-11 18:11:12 UTC
Because it should be "and" instead of "or". Welcome to typos.
Goose99
#3 - 2011-12-11 18:18:49 UTC
Faction has to be higher than -2.
Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-11 20:59:13 UTC
Ugh, well that's just wonderful. I just hope that as I do more missions with Caldari my Minmatar/Gallente standing doesn't diminish too horribly.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-12-11 21:22:19 UTC
Train up the Social skills, especially the Diplomacy skill.

That will help raise your negative standings without affecting your positive standings. If you're trying to gain positive standings with all Factions, check out the 'Plan'.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#6 - 2011-12-11 21:52:41 UTC
Darcel Black wrote:
Ugh, well that's just wonderful. I just hope that as I do more missions with Caldari my Minmatar/Gallente standing doesn't diminish too horribly.


That is usually the trade-off.... once you can run missions with the Caldari, just avoid doing missions against another faction (do only anti-pirate missions) and decline any storylines and your Minmatar/Gallente standing should be fine.

Also, every 3 months you can do the SoE epic arc for a nice boost (8,5%, iirc) with the faction standing of your choice.

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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-12-11 22:37:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Substantia Nigra
To access a level 2 agent you need to have adequate standings with the agent's corp and faction. That is neither of them at -2 or worse, and at least one of them at 1 or better.

This is covered at http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Standing with additional info at http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Agent.

Your difficulty appears to be that your faction standings are so low (-2 or worse) that they 'block' or override your corp standings from taking effect. The remedy depends on what it is that you want to achieve.

I was in a similar situation earlier this year and wanted to be able to access all the epic arc agents. I started to 'fix' the problem by grinding level 1 missions. After a week of this I discovered DMC's 'plan' for faction standings repair (mentioned above) and started following its advice. Doing this achieved more repair in a single session than I had managed in a week of running lvl1 missions. I kept at this until I got the four major factions on the sunny side of -2.

Once I had done that I started working up the specific corporations I was interested in, until I had them all better than 3 or 5 (depending on whether I needed lvl3 or 4 mission access).

This process has shifted me from being beloved to the Minmatar / Gallente (> 9) and loathed by the Amarr / Caldari (< -2), to having middling standings with most factions* and adequate corporation standings to access the agents I need. I rarely seek normal agent missions now, instead limiting my mission running to the six lvl3&4 epic arcs and the occasional cosmos effort.

* Tho not Serpentis and Sansha, who still are not very fond of me.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Darcel Black
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-11 22:46:58 UTC
I have finished about 15 missions of the 'plan' Caldari agents so it shouldn't take too long to do them all, thank you to everyone for the help.