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Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-14 11:18:21 UTC
Hello everyone.

I'm new on WH world i mean i never do a site on it.
But now i wanna give it a try and i'm here to ask your opinion with ship that can be use for start a relic/data site on WH class 1-2 or 3 (i think is better go with one friend on wh class 3 or it can be possible doing alone ?)

For the ship type i already know the T3 cruiser can do anything (but i can't use it for now) and i very expensive right now.
I read a lot of guide about it and watch a lot of video but all sems older

Anyone of us can share an opinion about how to do wh cs 1-2-3 solo or co-op with one friend ?

Thank's so much.

Take care and fly safe !
Blake Nosferatu
Phoenix of the Black Sun
#2 - 2014-09-14 11:57:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Blake Nosferatu
Effective and cheapish c1 - c3 ships are a duel rep heavy pulse harbinger and a passive rep heavy missle drake. The goods you get out of wh data sites currently are pretty bad. The only thing making them worth running is the blue loot and nano's that might drop.Relic sites in wh space can be very profitable both for stuff in cans and blue loot/possible nano drops. The unsecure frontier database and forgotton frontier recursive depot you will have a bit of trouble with as they have sleepers that point you and a heavy dps wave. Id consider doing the normal combat anoms if I were you in c3 space. You dont have to scan them down, dont get pointed except I think for one site and will not relay so heavily on randomly generated stuff in cans. Very easy to solo c3's with one of the ships I mentioned at the start of my reply to you. Bring your buddy along if you would like to get used to running sites if that makes you more comfortable.
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2014-09-14 14:50:41 UTC
Dear Blake Nosferatu

Thank you for the reply can you post the fit of two ship ?

Take care and fly safe.
Blake Nosferatu
Phoenix of the Black Sun
#4 - 2014-09-15 02:59:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Blake Nosferatu
[Harbinger, C3 PVE]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Heat Sink II

10MN Afterburner II
Stasis Webifier II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Corpum C-Type Medium Nosferatu

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Hornet EC-300 x5
Hobgoblin I x10


Pulse second repper as needed as well as AB. Swap crystals as needed for range.


[Drake, C3 PVE]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Amplifier
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Small Nosferatu II

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Hornet EC-300 x5


If you fit a 2% power implant you could fit a c-type medium nos which is nice.

For both fits the ec 300's are incase you get tackled you have a slight chance of getting away (can swap for hobgoblin's if you want).

I use hobgoblin 1's because they are cheap and sleepers will munch on your drones pretty quick.

P.S. use scourge fury heavy missles and always use your nos when able as sleepers have unlimited energy so you'll always be able to siphon energy from them.
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know
#5 - 2014-09-15 05:16:04 UTC
And bring in cargo:
Mobile tractor unit
mobile depot (to refit of)
Salvager (can be done by alt in salvage catalyst)
Probe launcher with 24 core probes
T1 cloak

And bring an attide that your ship may suddenly die. If that happen try to kill at least one ship before you die 😈

~Bringer of happiness

http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-09-15 20:13:24 UTC
Hello there!

Thanks so much guy's !
I have one question what about a Myrmidon ? My friend can't use Drake and Harbringer for now he can use only Gallente ship.
Any advice about Myrmidon ?

However with this fit i talk about Harbringer and Drake relic and data can't be done ? Killing alla sleeper and refit the ship with relic analyzer, don't you think ?

Thank's for further advice !

Fly safe !
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-09-15 20:52:17 UTC
Malkom Isu wrote:
Hello there!

Thanks so much guy's !
I have one question what about a Myrmidon ? My friend can't use Drake and Harbringer for now he can use only Gallente ship.
Any advice about Myrmidon ?

However with this fit i talk about Harbringer and Drake relic and data can't be done ? Killing alla sleeper and refit the ship with relic analyzer, don't you think ?

Thank's for further advice !

Fly safe !


In theory a myrmidon with a setup similar to the harbinger would have more rep since it has the native bonuses. I don't know the numbers, but I'd guess that it's pretty close. The main issue is that the myrmidon wants to use drones, and sleepers love to kill drones.

To fix that, make sure to use lots of EWAR, and the sleepers will concentrate on that ship instead of the drones.

Yes, bring a mobile depot for data/relic and refit once the rats are dead. This is common and good practice unless you'd rather have a dedicated covops to make it faster (I recommend this if possible).

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-09-17 21:01:38 UTC
Hello guys !

Thanks for all opinion.

Me and my friend are start to think seriusly to do wh relic an data so we need to mount up to t2 cruiser.

Proteus and Tengu are good enough to do wh i think, did you choose the same ship or have different t3 can be helpfull?

Let's talk about fitting, nullifier is the first stuff that i would use to avoid any kind of problem (pve/p point and bubbles).

Thanks and fly safe !
MooMooDachshundCow
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-09-17 21:31:24 UTC
Yes. pack a mobile depot and while traveling to/from your targets fit a covert cloak/nullifier/MWD, and maybe some nanos/stabs.

That way you can get in and out from anywhere.

As far as fittings that will run the sites, those are available all over. Check the stickies first. I like a Tengu for C3 work, but that's just me.

Yeah, well, it's just like my opinion, man.
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-09-17 22:37:56 UTC
Hello

Did you have any fit to share for Proteus and Tengu too ?

Thanks so much !
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#11 - 2014-09-18 20:54:49 UTC
Rail Brutix would probably be more effective for your friend.

For the fits just go into EFT or PYFA, go onto Eve-Survival, check how much DPS you need to tank and figure it out on EFT..I could just tell you...But its more fun to figure it out:)
Abbie Rova
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2014-09-18 22:24:23 UTC
my first ship of choice for c3 would be tengu which can solo them with relative ease.

c1/c2 can be done in the bc suggested.
no fits for tengu ill get you one off a corp mate tomorrow (tengu being the only t3 i dont fly)
sometimes you can get more isk from the sleepers then the cans so always loot and salvage the sites.
any further questions drop me a mail in game ill sort you out with fits.
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-09-20 12:46:49 UTC
Dear Pilot !

Thanks to anyone !

Sorry for late reply i was busy with work and real life during this day !

See you soon !

Fly safe !
Aryex
Bastard Children of Poinen
#14 - 2014-09-22 22:10:00 UTC
Also note that on the drake setup, you may need over 1000 missiles to clear a C2 site if your skills are low.
Verdis deMosays
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-09-29 01:47:13 UTC
I would recommend the passive drake linked above for C1, C2. If you have T2 HML skills, its an easy clear, though slow if you are under ~325 dps.

Myrm, not so much unless you can sentry snipe, since sleepers can hit for stupid damage at stupid range, and will Nom up any other drones you throw out. Put this way, my drake's drones will die in 3 shots to ONE sleeper frig.

Also, if you're running Data/Relic sites, don't warp off after you trigger the last wave or the site will despawn. Had it happen to me earlier, though it may be a bug. Time will tell.

Oh, and if you see any Low-Class members, be sure to shout out for help in local and we'll be right there.

Via con Bob
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#16 - 2014-10-01 03:34:18 UTC
Pilot Malkom, thanks for starting this as last week after a brief consultation with someone telling me the little tricks to use, I been able to scan down WHs with a reasonable amount of confidence now. I too, like you wonder can C1s or C2s be soloable in a Battleship?
Blake Nosferatu
Phoenix of the Black Sun
#17 - 2014-10-01 06:58:04 UTC
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
Pilot Malkom, thanks for starting this as last week after a brief consultation with someone telling me the little tricks to use, I been able to scan down WHs with a reasonable amount of confidence now. I too, like you wonder can C1s or C2s be soloable in a Battleship?


Battleships in c1 or c2 space is overkill and slower (easy to get caught) putting more isk at risk. Battleships cannot fit through a c1 btw (unless hauled in or built in the c1). If you want to do so though you can very well solo c1 and c2s in a battleship with no issues.
Malkom Isu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2014-10-06 23:34:05 UTC
Dear Pilot,

Thanks for all reply, i'm very busy with work and i'm happy to read all news all of you !
Right now the best choose is to do C1-C2 with BC like Drake and Myrmidon too, Myrmi can shoot at very far distance so sentry can be stay in safe, about Drake can do a lot of dps with t2 heavy assault missile.

About do C1-C2 in BS i think is very danger do that, because is too slow i prefer avoid that kind of stuff.

Well when i can, i have to do a lot of try ! By the way did you enjoy last patch right now ? How you think about that ?

Cheer's !
Take care and thanks again to all !

Fly Safe !