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colera deldios

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#21 - 2014-09-18 12:45:20 UTC

Danika Princip wrote:

colera deldios wrote:

Belen Shields wrote:

colera deldios wrote:

frasdasd Aakiwa wrote:

make cyno not being able to light cloaser then 10km of the pos shield. problem fixed and everyone is happy

It's not really a solution. It creates more problems than it solves. While dropping a MCU solves the problem while retaining the EVE image.

Dropping a mcu only cures the symptom and is not touching the roots of the disease. It is an exploit. Period.

By that logic let's make CONCORD kill everyone in HS the second they lock someone. Or make all ships in HS indestructible, or maybe add 3 Are you sure Dialog windows after you press Jump To on a Titan. Let's also make scamming and stealing bannable, lets give carriers insta warp any other stupid idea there is...

Lets also remove bumping overall, bumping carriers out of RR range, bumping ship off undock, lets give every ship in game +1000 warp strength. I mean warp core stab only cures the warp scram/disrupt symptoms but +1000 cures it.

None of those things have been declared exploits.

I don't remember CCP saying this is an Exploit either or seeing anyone banned for using it. So by that definition warp scramming someone is also an exploit so are bubbles, webs, soothing someone, chat, market pretty much everything is an exploit than.

We sure are bent on punishing people for the smallest mistakes yet we are going to hold hands for people incapable to find a solution to what is a perfectly valid mechanic even tho there are 5 possible solutions to avoid this mechanics being used.

On the other hand we will remove this mechanic that is perfect for baiting someone into a trap and that further escalating to a full out B-R fight..

Petrified

Old and Petrified Syndication

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#22 - 2014-09-18 19:32:02 UTC

colera deldios wrote:

Petrified wrote:

While I agree that stupid mistakes should not be cushioned, the POS bumping due to cyno jumping titans onto a POS is not a matter of stupid mistakes but abuse of mechanics.

The other examples you give are not because of mechanical abuse but because of stupid mistakes.

It's a pretty valid mechanic that can be solved by simply dropping down a Mobile Cyno Jammer did you even ready anything I wrote ?

Have you ever dropped a mobile cyno jammer? They last how long?

If I log my titan off in my tower and go to bed, anytime after 2 hours of sleep I am expected to wake up and drop another MCJ?

The mechanic is broken. A MCJ is a band-aid on a severed limb.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.

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baltec1 Bat Country Pandemic Horde Likes received: 19,001	#23 - 2014-09-18 19:42:36 UTC colera deldios wrote: I don't remember CCP saying this is an Exploit either or seeing anyone banned for using it. http://themittani.com/features/titan-pos-bump-exploit-explained

Petrified

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#24 - 2014-09-18 19:45:35 UTC | Edited by: Petrified

baltec1 wrote:

colera deldios wrote:

I don't remember CCP saying this is an Exploit either or seeing anyone banned for using it.

http://themittani.com/features/titan-pos-bump-exploit-explained

Actually, given that is not a CCP site, you should have linked this instead: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification-forcefield-access/ Also, while the mits site says CCP is calling the cyno bumping a non-exploit, it would have helped if there was a link to them specifically saying it.

Either way, the official CCP link I give is clear enough: bumping a ship outside of it's POS when it is within the force field and the force field password was not known is an exploit. This would include the cyno bumping by extrapolation.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.

baltec1

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#25 - 2014-09-18 19:49:40 UTC

Petrified wrote:

baltec1 wrote:

colera deldios wrote:

I don't remember CCP saying this is an Exploit either or seeing anyone banned for using it.

http://themittani.com/features/titan-pos-bump-exploit-explained

Actually, given that is not a CCP site, you should have linked this instead: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification-forcefield-access/

Either will do.

Tis an exploit people, you are not getting it back.

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thatonepersone Black Jack 0-1 Likes received: 49	#26 - 2014-09-19 02:07:46 UTC Its an exploite. In b 4 lock.

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Kell Braugh Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 31	#27 - 2014-09-19 02:35:34 UTC If interaction between ships through a force-field through quirks of the game mechanics is an exploit, than most the titan bridges to date have also been exploits and should be dealt with accordingly.