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Burner Pirates outdo Alliances in terms of ISK damage
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Chang Liang
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-09-17 22:24:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Chang Liang
I read the blog about the Burner missions and CCP's look into the matter. CODE. have stated they have done alot of damage since their foundation. But I think they got a big challenger on their hands now.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66504/1/Alliance.jpg

"All in all, 19962 player ships had been destroyed by Burners as of September 14th, worth a total of 870 billion ISK." - Excerp from the Dev Blog on Burner NPCs

From the looks of it, players really bling out their ships to try and beat the Burner ships. If the Burners were to actually roam around outside of missions and decide for a little trip to Jita... let us say Jita will literally burn.


Im posting it here since the Burners are criminals and I wasn't sure where else to post this.

Also... since people usually ask for a source, here it is: CCP Dev Blog: Some NPCs just want to watch the world burn
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-09-17 22:36:36 UTC
We really need to step up our game. Burner NPC's must have their hot dropping skill to PL levell x500.
Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-09-17 23:00:09 UTC
i gotta gank some more missioners
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-09-17 23:50:55 UTC
Read the blog. It made my laugh.

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-09-18 00:44:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Yang Aurilen
Now all we need are burner nyxes waiting at a unspecified lowsec system with a roaming burner tengu to light a cyno that works in highsec to hot drop on autopiloting freighters and the like and camp systems for days on end.

Then CCP will introduce the mission burner blobs where every burner blob has 10x the logi behind their backs and will all switch reps a burner getting primaried and will also do the same and primary ships one at a time.

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-09-18 09:05:54 UTC
Meh, I thought it was all alliances combined from the title. Now that would be something to write about, this: meh...
Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#7 - 2014-09-18 09:11:29 UTC
I bet we did the most per member! :)

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2014-09-18 11:11:17 UTC
Rabe Raptor wrote:
I bet we did the most per member! :)



Lol not even close.. on that metric we outclass you by 10:1.

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Black Pedro
Mine.
#9 - 2014-09-18 12:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Black Pedro
I am not sure why I am stepping into this pissing match but, fact check:

Kagura Nikon wrote:

Lol not even close.. on that metric we outclass you by 10:1.


September 2014 ISK destroyed:

The Pursuit of Happiness (-BRO): 77.89B ISK/ 66 members = 1.18B ISK/member
CODE. : 311.96B ISK/ 277 members = 1.13 ISK/member

So no, you outclass CODE. by closer to 5%, not the 1000% you claim.

But you both lose to Marmite, who are far and away the current masters of elite PvP. Here is the ranked list of the alliances (plus (-BRO)) listing in Falcon's post by ISK destroyed per member for September:

Alliance....B ISK/member
MYM8......2.00
PoH.........1.18
CODE......1.13
SHDWC...0.41
MEN........0.27
-10...........0.25
-GE- ........0.23
NC...........0.11
SOLAR....0.09
CONDI.....0.06
BRAVE.....0.04

And at around ~0.15B ISK damage inflicted per burner as described in the dev blog, you can see that several alliance do more damage on this metric than the NPCs although comparing persistent player alliances to continually spawning NPCs is a bit sketchy.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-09-18 14:56:43 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Now all we need are burner nyxes waiting at a unspecified lowsec system with a roaming burner tengu to light a cyno that works in highsec to hot drop on autopiloting freighters and the like and camp systems for days on end.

Then CCP will introduce the mission burner blobs where every burner blob has 10x the logi behind their backs and will all switch reps a burner getting primaried and will also do the same and primary ships one at a time.


Let us puse for a moment and imagine the hilarity that would ensue if high sec ganking were added as an npc activity.
Chang Liang
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-09-18 16:10:14 UTC
Dirk Decibel wrote:
Meh, I thought it was all alliances combined from the title. Now that would be something to write about, this: meh...


If you look closer in this picture ( http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66504/1/Alliance.jpg ), you will see that Burner NPCs (all five types of them) have caused far more damage since their introduction than the most top damaging Alliances in the game, including the Marmites and CODE. and CONDI.

That speaks volumes that the Burner NPCs are really good at one thing: Destruction of ships and causing real damage in value of ISK. Let us only imagine what would happen if Burner NPCs were allowed to move out of mission areas and start to randomly hotdrop infront of stations, inlcuding Jita....
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-09-18 18:10:27 UTC
Black Pedro wrote:
I am not sure why I am stepping into this pissing match but, fact check:

Kagura Nikon wrote:

Lol not even close.. on that metric we outclass you by 10:1.


September 2014 ISK destroyed:

The Pursuit of Happiness (-BRO): 77.89B ISK/ 66 members = 1.18B ISK/member
CODE. : 311.96B ISK/ 277 members = 1.13 ISK/member

So no, you outclass CODE. by closer to 5%, not the 1000% you claim.

But you both lose to Marmite, who are far and away the current masters of elite PvP. Here is the ranked list of the alliances (plus (-BRO)) listing in Falcon's post by ISK destroyed per member for September:

Alliance....B ISK/member
MYM8......2.00
PoH.........1.18
CODE......1.13
SHDWC...0.41
MEN........0.27
-10...........0.25
-GE- ........0.23
NC...........0.11
SOLAR....0.09
CONDI.....0.06
BRAVE.....0.04

And at around ~0.15B ISK damage inflicted per burner as described in the dev blog, you can see that several alliance do more damage on this metric than the NPCs although comparing persistent player alliances to continually spawning NPCs is a bit sketchy.



Well 10 time was clearly a hyperbole. But the crime and punishment forum has the code of conduct that demands any statement to be made with hyperboles.

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Chang Liang
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-09-18 23:14:42 UTC
Kagura Nikon wrote:

Well 10 time was clearly a hyperbole. But the crime and punishment forum has the code of conduct that demands any statement to be made with hyperboles.


If that is so... then I can clearly point out that the five Burners together indeed outclass you by atleast 10:1 and that is not being a hyperbole.

And this is only because of the Burner missions. Imagine what would happen if these Burner NPCs were to roam rampant in mining belts or even do daring blitz assaults on a random player near gates or space stations.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#14 - 2014-09-19 00:46:14 UTC
CCP troll, best troll. This is just an extension of that.

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One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-09-19 09:31:38 UTC
Chang Liang wrote:
Dirk Decibel wrote:
Meh, I thought it was all alliances combined from the title. Now that would be something to write about, this: meh...


If you look closer in this picture ( http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66504/1/Alliance.jpg ), you will see that Burner NPCs (all five types of them) have caused far more damage since their introduction than the most top damaging Alliances in the game, including the Marmites and CODE. and CONDI.

That speaks volumes that the Burner NPCs are really good at one thing: Destruction of ships and causing real damage in value of ISK. Let us only imagine what would happen if Burner NPCs were allowed to move out of mission areas and start to randomly hotdrop infront of stations, inlcuding Jita....


I can read charts :P It's a nice ammount of damage proving that it's a worthwile PvE addition, but it's not earth shattering.

But any extra destruction is good so keep it coming Burners!
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2014-09-19 09:47:07 UTC
Chang Liang wrote:
Kagura Nikon wrote:

Well 10 time was clearly a hyperbole. But the crime and punishment forum has the code of conduct that demands any statement to be made with hyperboles.


If that is so... then I can clearly point out that the five Burners together indeed outclass you by atleast 10:1 and that is not being a hyperbole.

And this is only because of the Burner missions. Imagine what would happen if these Burner NPCs were to roam rampant in mining belts or even do daring blitz assaults on a random player near gates or space stations.



They have a huge advantage over us.. players do not dock when they enter in local .. as they do when we enter.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"