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Petition to remove pvp ship combat from high sec.

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Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#21 - 2014-09-17 13:01:04 UTC
Tippia wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
OP may have a point. Only 25% of the player base plays EVE for the PvP.
…well, aside from the simple fact that the graph isn't really saying that, and that 75% of the players like PvP — a lot more than for any other activity in the game. So no, the OP does not have a point. Blink


Someone can't read a graph. It clearly says that only 25% of the people who took the survey ticked that they play for the PvP. They even (obviously, by the numbers), had the option of ticking multiple choices.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2014-09-17 13:01:15 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Benton Risalo wrote:
Feh. Good luck. I've already stopped playing, and I won't be resubscribing until pvp is removed from high sec anyways, so you won't be able to gank me.

Someone isn't aware of forum ganking....



That's why we need forum killmails.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Solecist Project
#23 - 2014-09-17 13:01:22 UTC
Sexy post?

Not in this thread.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#24 - 2014-09-17 13:01:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Benton Risalo wrote:
his has gone beyond danger and excitement. This has become plain harassment and is a problem.
Yes, it really should be a lot more of it than there is now — combat in highsec has become too circumscribed. And considering how popular it is, it could definitely use some relaxation so that it can go back to a measurable level of danger and excitement.

Quote:
They need to learn to appreciate their freedoms, and learn to respect it.
You are talking about the self-imposed victims, presumably.

Benton Risalo wrote:
Someone can't read a graph.
Correct. That someone is you. The part you need to read more carefully is the title.

Quote:
It clearly says that only 25% of the people who took the survey ticked that they play for the PvP.
Incorrect.
Dartiot Geherrat
Shrike's Thorn
#25 - 2014-09-17 13:01:52 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
OP may have a point. Only 25% of the player base plays EVE for the PvP. (skip down to the "Which of the following, if any, influenced your decision to subscribe to EVE online".)

Also, /popcorn...

Twisted


Myeah, that doesn't mean they want PvP removed from hisec, though. As much as PvP relies on industry, so does industry rely on spaceships exploding. Sometimes, it's you. An acceptable risk for most people.
Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#26 - 2014-09-17 13:02:31 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:
Benton Risalo wrote:
Feh. Good luck. I've already stopped playing, and I won't be resubscribing until pvp is removed from high sec anyways, so you won't be able to gank me.

Someone isn't aware of forum ganking....




Oh please, make my day. Gank my threads. Here's what will happen- the thread will be popular for a little but, die, and then get reposted. You can try to silence me, but it won't happen. I've been an activist (IRL) for a long time, and I have the tenacity and persistence it takes to make an impact.
Solecist Project
#27 - 2014-09-17 13:03:15 UTC
Anyhow... highsec without combat ...
... prices will fall and fall ...
... nobody would produce **** anymore ...
... death of the game.

Way to go, *******. :)

Can we mass report him for a ban? (:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#28 - 2014-09-17 13:03:39 UTC
Dartiot Geherrat wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
OP may have a point. Only 25% of the player base plays EVE for the PvP. (skip down to the "Which of the following, if any, influenced your decision to subscribe to EVE online".)

Also, /popcorn...

Twisted


Myeah, that doesn't mean they want PvP removed from hisec, though. As much as PvP relies on industry, so does industry rely on spaceships exploding. Sometimes, it's you. An acceptable risk for most people.


There will still be wardecs. I just don't want ganking to be allowed in high sec at all. That's it. Feel free to wardec and blow each other to pieces if that's what you want, but leave those who don't want it out of it.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2014-09-17 13:04:09 UTC
Benton Risalo wrote:
the thread will be popular for a little but, die, and then get reposted.
…and insta-locked, since you're breaking the forum rules.

Quote:
You can try to silence me, but it won't happen.
Yes it will. It happens the same every time, especially since you have already said that you will not even push the matter.
Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#30 - 2014-09-17 13:04:54 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Anyhow... highsec without combat ...
... prices will fall and fall ...
... nobody would produce **** anymore ...
... death of the game.

Way to go, *******. :)

Can we mass report him for a ban? (:


Prices wouldn't fall. There will always be wardecs. Besides, CCP could always lower the amount of resources you get from whatever you're doing, making them more rare and making the price artificially higher.
Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-09-17 13:05:40 UTC
Benton Risalo wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
Benton Risalo wrote:
Feh. Good luck. I've already stopped playing, and I won't be resubscribing until pvp is removed from high sec anyways, so you won't be able to gank me.

Someone isn't aware of forum ganking....




Oh please, make my day. Gank my threads. Here's what will happen- the thread will be popular for a little but, die, and then get reposted. You can try to silence me, but it won't happen. I've been an activist (IRL) for a long time, and I have the tenacity and persistence it takes to make an impact.



You won't make an impact, for the simple reason that nobody really takes you seriously.
Solecist Project
#32 - 2014-09-17 13:05:47 UTC
Oh btw, OP...

... as you announced your intentions I sure hope you will enjoy the hardware ban
that will make it necessary to buy a new computer ... :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2014-09-17 13:05:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Eugene Kerner
Benton Risalo wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:
OP may have a point. Only 25% of the player base plays EVE for the PvP. (skip down to the "Which of the following, if any, influenced your decision to subscribe to EVE online".)

Also, /popcorn...

Twisted


HA! There we go. I'm going to work to raise awareness of this until something changes.


So according to zKillboard you lost a total of 3 Iterons and one capsule.

Two Iterons in high sec while carrieing a mind-boggling amount of Quantum Microprocessors and lost a billion isk and quite possibly a very high collateral for the lost cargo - so most probably to a scam.

The second high sec loss seems to be a ore hauling loss to a catalyst so I guess in a belt...no big loss though.

Finally my favorite losses (because we killed him)...capsule and Iteron...in not just any low sec systerm but AUNENEN
Oh my...
The limited Social Adaption Chip you lost that day would do you good in these hard times.

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#34 - 2014-09-17 13:06:29 UTC
Benton Risalo wrote:


This has gone beyond danger and excitement. This has become plain harassment and is a problem. Something needs to be done to reign in the players who abuse their ability to gank and harass other players. They need to learn to appreciate their freedoms, and learn to respect it.

Did you even read what I posted anything about eve before subbing?

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-09-17 13:07:36 UTC
Please stop posting.
Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#36 - 2014-09-17 13:07:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Benton Risalo
Tippia wrote:
Benton Risalo wrote:
the thread will be popular for a little but, die, and then get reposted.
…and insta-locked, since you're breaking the forum rules.


I haven't broken any rules yet. I've read the rules, and I'll work carefully around them to make sure that I don't break any rules. Don't you worry.
Benton Risalo
Risalo Industries
#37 - 2014-09-17 13:08:43 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Benton Risalo wrote:


This has gone beyond danger and excitement. This has become plain harassment and is a problem. Something needs to be done to reign in the players who abuse their ability to gank and harass other players. They need to learn to appreciate their freedoms, and learn to respect it.

Did you even read what I posted anything about eve before subbing?


I did, and it sounded fun. I didn't think that there would be a 12 trillion isk organization dedicated to making life difficult for people who don't want to pvp in space combat.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#38 - 2014-09-17 13:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Benton Risalo wrote:
I haven't broken any rules yet.
Yes you have.
Breaking more of them will not help you.

Quote:
I'll work carefully around them to make sure that I don't break any rules.
So basically, everything you said in the OP was a lie?

Quote:
I've read the rules
No, you very obviously haven't. That, or you're just ignoring them as trolls always do.
Solecist Project
#39 - 2014-09-17 13:10:46 UTC
Except that you clearly showed intention to break the rules... *snickers xD*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-09-17 13:11:07 UTC
Benton Risalo wrote:
I don't know about everyone else, but I know that I'm not alone in this.

I'm carrying expensive goods.

Theres the problem of literally EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU GUYS who get ganked. Fit a freighter for max EHP, then never fill its hole more then 80%, youll NEVER be worth ganking. Hell, anything you do, prioritize survivability over raw profitability. wanna carry faction/deadspace/officer mods to a trade hub? DO SO IN A COMBAT SHIP, whether this is a 250k EHP marauder, or an instawarp interceptor, or what, just dont use a hauler.

Have to carry ALOT of stuff? then elave it to red frog, charge them collateral, that way its not your responsibility.

Fact is, its YOUR decisions that make you worth ganking, if you put in steps to make sure you were never profitable to gank, the gankers would ignore you.