Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yeah, like some guy who dabbles in a bit of industry in high sec can give some real insight into sov mechanics.

If you got rid of the giant ehp's that structures have, supers become kind of irrelevant.

Super for the most part do the same job as dread without the hassles of having to siege. The trade off is their DPS can be killed off, they cost alot more, and you have to entomb a character on one.

This is not to say that supers upsides are not huge. Dreads don't do so well in larger battles because the server has problems dealing with turrets, but that is not a game balance issue that is a server issue.

Most people live in too much fear of the 'hot drop' instead of learning how to deal with it. The idea of losing a capital fleets has done more to make people live in fear then actual capitals dieing.

So 10 dreads can destroy and plant their own TCU in less time than siege module cycles once, that's just stupid.

We can take an entire Region in one night using a single suicide dread per system with this idea.

I suggest a volatile region at the border of each individual sov holding group's space.

Explained in greater detail here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=373839&find=unread

I believe this will promote activity, and offer earned safety at a price.

I know power projection and null sec stagnation has been a hot button topic recently and not without cause. It seems to me that these issues are directly linked and also directly linked to the mobility of fleets as well. Coalitions have gotten so large and cyno networks so vast that it is never safe to engage because there is no realistic way to know how many ships might hit the field within a few minutes and hoping to scout all of EVE at once is just not realistic.

Stagnation in any form at its core will be linked to how fast you are able to move around space. In EVE your ability to cover ground directly affects the ability of other entities to carry out their business. If it's too easy to move, you get too much influence from too far away. If it's too hard to move people won't be asked.

If you can move too quickly stagnation results in the form we have now, any attack that will take any degree of time are always unsafe because of how many potential reinforcements can hit the field in a very short window. On the flip side of that coin I have heard people call for the removal of jump drives and bridges and allow capitals to use stargates. This is really the wrong way to go. If it becomes too difficult to move around the game by having to go gate to gate stagnation, in that case, will be the result of people simply not being willing to make the trip. This is particularly true of anyone who can only play for a few hours in a sitting (with the new warp speed mechanics imagine moving a dread fleet 20 jumps...uhhhhhhhhhhh, they'd have to log off before you got there).

On top of all that jump drives/bridges provide interesting methods of circumventing defensive blockades. Without the use of jump drives a larger coalition could defeat a smaller one by simply camping strategic gates the smaller coalition will simply never make it through. To those of you who think this worked in the past I have seen and been involved in fights where you jump a gate, your gate cloak runs out and you die before the grid loads, so did it really work in the past?

So how do we fix this? Well the only thing I can come up with is a hard cap on how often you can jump using a jump drive or bridge. If you use a jump drive or bridge you receive a 10 minute timer during which you are unable to travel using a jump drive or bridge. From a lore perspective this is easy enough to justify. The implant in your head that allows you to link to your next clone doesn't fare particularly well when you jump lightyears through space at a time and needs some time to stabilize the connection when you do. Stargates on the other hand are equipped with carriers that transfer your implant's signal from one gate to the next so from you link's perspective you might as well have walked through the gate. Therefore the 10 minute jump flag would not prevent the use of a stargate nor would it stop you from docking, assuming your ship is not a super and can dock. So while capital ships could only change systems once every 10 minutes, something like Black ops or subcap ships that have been bridged will be able to continue moving on right away by the normal use of stargates. I would suggest a timer in the top left of the screen just like the ones for suspect timers etc. From a game play perspective this is admittedly a somewhat inelegant attempt to put speed bumps in the road to increase the response times of fleets over long distances. For normal use of capitals the 10 minute timer should not be too strenuous as long as you plan to deal with it. Reinforced structures provide more than enough time to move heavy assets in time if required. Your enemy could take advantage of your moving out heavy assets to attack from the other side of course, now that you can't get back in time but coming up with interesting ways to defeat one's enemies is what EVE is all about.

It should be obvious that this means if you are within one jump of your home system you are completely unaffected and things operate tomorrow exactly like they do today barring the wait to return home if nothing happens. This is intentional. You should be able to respond quickly to events that are near your home system(s) and you should be able to muster a quick defense if a tower within range comes under attack or the opportunity to get a fight arises or whatever else comes along. Any roaming gang will be able to have a rough idea of where they might be most likely to get hotdropped as well which is also a good thing.

It should also be obvious that if you live very far from where a fight breaks out it will probably be over before you can get there with a capital fleet. Again this is intentional. Knowing where your enemies live you should have a good idea of what can hit the field within what time frame allowing you to properly assess the risks of starting something up as well as how long you have before huge waves of reinforcements could arrive. While this won't dissolve massive coalitions it would certainly decrease the value of having blues in Dekelin if you live in Geminate for example. If these massive coalitions decide to all move into the same area so they can support each other then competition over available sites should get interesting and would open up quite a lot of space for others. I imagine the discussion over who doesn't have to move should be interesting as well.

I'm trying to land in a sweet spot where mobility is good enough to keep things rolling but not so good that you can get in on a fight on the other side of the universe at a moment's notice. I know players manage to break even the best laid plans though, so EVE online show me how to break this, what have I not considered?

After reading what feels like 300 posts I think most people want the same things.

1) Make smaller SOV profitable enough so larger alliances can support their empire without the need to hold vast regions of space.
2) logistics require a limitation, I suggest disallow remote assistance and vastly increase ehp on T2 logi to make them viable.
3) Moon goo should be minable and widely available like normal ores instead of time based POS nonsense.
4) Restrict the amount of SOV per alliance with a means to prevent coalition.

EVE is no fun when it takes at least week to find a decent PvP engagement. It has gotten progressively worse year by year to have a bit of fun in null and sometimes feels like a full time job to keep things ticking over.

Restrict an alliance to a region and make every null sec alliance outside that region red with no ability to change it. The only way an alliance could make a BLUE if it resided within the same region. Personal standings are automatically overwritten by corp/alliance standings. I find the possibility of 3-4 auto reds meeting on a roam chaotically appealing in a free for all shoot out. All hi-sec alliences are automatically RED to all null sec alliances and yellow to low sec alliances. Make it rewarding in terms of LP depending on PvP regional enemy. If being paid rent makes you hard you can always higher out cap fleets to help people take space as its got to be more fun than picking up moon goo once a week.

Tired of hearing the same old "cant do that" "cant do this" shyte while a great game slowly turns into the same 50 guys with 200 alts each. Its a game plain and simple and games are supposed to be fun not feel like a full time job.

I don't think you grasp the whole suicide dread concept. We don't expect it to survive.

Just pointing that it must keep tied these 2 statements. We cannot treat each statement and proposal here as if all others woudl be accepted as well. Because you know that is now how things work. We must be clear to CCP that Supers and EHP issues of structures are tied side by side.