Wormholes

You do warp off and back method or slowboat?

Yeah we did the same thing the other night with only 4 people active. The mechanic works fine imo.

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The risk of rolling your static when you still control your enviroment is still not that a big deal. If you have multiple connections you more prone to be somewhat risk averse.

If you live in a c4 or what not, I doubt you will start roll those orcas anytime soon with active neighbours. This wasnt safe before patch either, because you could always collapse yourself in with your target if you wanted. Sure could be annoying to warp to a c4 and see a orca close it in your face, but that ability gave these guys a sense of false security. The increased risk, and more so the percieved increased risk just make for a poorer gameplay.

If OP had several active holes I doubt he would rolled with 4 guys.

The percieved higher risk is a greater problem than the actual increased risk, because it affect the player mentality more. Imagine, delayed local in null, or remove concorde from incursion systems? Players would find something else to do. You can be hard and say adapt or move on, but replacing players that move on, isn't that easy though.

Some small corp perspective on this, as we did a bit over the weekend. I wouldn't say rage-rolling of old, more like sloath-rolling... (needs a meme)

The spawn distance does leave you exposed in a battleship, i think the furthest i spawned was around 10-12km. This on its own isn't that bad as a time penalty, but I'd say the biggest pain is the time it takes to roll. Not so much because of mass-spawn, but because we now tend to have more connections than before. Although i think this was largely due to having to roll 4-5 wormholes with as many battleships. I think it probably took around an hour to close 2 C5's, 1 C4, 1 C3... novelty factor aside, its not exactly fun.

On the other hand, ninja rolling to close a hole you cant handle is now pretty much not an option.

More holes does not equal more time as one person can only jump once every 4 minutes. You just warp to the next hole and so on and so forth



Its not rage rolling thats really been effected its smaller corps ability to combat roll and try and trap a portion of a larger fleet. Now we have no option but to ask them to ship down or just pos up.

I agree it doesn't always mean more time. However, that assumes all holes are empty and you know the chain well enough to take the risks. Sometimes you might need to sacrifice a rolling ship for a scout or a pvp ship, because you know there is a risk and want the ability to react [by that i mean reship for pvp]. Re-reading my post, i could have been clearer on that.

Also, awesome paint skills Seraph and thanks for the local spam on our next sloth marathon :D

More likely to try ninja close a hole right when not landing cap far off the hole?

If you're worried about losing a battleship, you're doing it wrong. Use a typhoon with 5 overdrives in lows. With a heated prop mod you can get it going 2355 m/s.

If you have to roll that many holes, you may want to invest in an Orca or two and just have a ship on the other side to web them around.

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Yeah but if you are rolling your own static, you can keep roll it more or less risk free. If you rolling a incoming you always been at risk. I both lost to rolling myself and killed others rolling, it never been risk free. Comes down to what level the agressor want to comit at sometimes.

If (when) the change lead to people less prone to roll what so ever. It doesn't really matter if the risk is increased when the risk isn't taken in the first place though. The best would be if players get encouraged to take risks. Lady luck and RNG doesn't really encourage that imho.