Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This would just be more work and make mission running more of a grind. -1

I expect that. We are talking about Sov 00, after all, where the ISK grows in every corner of the systems, easy and quick to pick. (Carrier ratting, Afktars Tengus, DEDs, etc).

Then you can't run Incursions and have to look for other pastures to get your money. And naturally you don't run 00 Incursions in uber bling ships, but rather proper PVP doctrines, which can take the punishment from Sanshas and players. You also have another fleet either run sites as well or guard the system if you are really afraid. High sec Incursions can only support so many people and the limit is already reached. That a little bit more difficulty in getting your money would drive you out of Sov 00 is again a very worrying tendency. I live in Syndicate with the crappiest money-making opportunities in the game, and yet I still make money and have fun. If I and other Syndicate dwellers (Clockworks and other CFC pets excluded) can do that under such harsh circumstances, you can certainly do that as well in Sov 00; making it a bit harder, involving and less a cake walk should not hurt.

Missions in NPC 00 don't require to collect the tags as you naturally get the LP for the mission. However, letting up to 100M in ISK go to waste because you are lazy is something I don't understand and something I would never do (unless the tags are in another than my preferred mission system). It's part of the fun after all. Converted into ISK, I have just as much ISK in tags as I have in LP atm and that with little effort thanks to the MTU, which you just need to watch and scoop in case someone decides to combat probe.

It is as reliable as you make it. You don't need a JF to bring tags out of your backwater Sov 00 in Tenal, Cobalt, Period or Omist. Just sell them to people in the alliance and they use WH, for instance, to bring them out. Or use a JF or bridges BR/Nulli T3/Cov Ops around to Low sec. Yes, it requires more cooperation but that's what everyone is so loudly crying these days anyways. Of course, you can use your alts if you have them, but if you are in a good alliance/corp, having this many accounts should not be a requirement.
I don't want more people in 00. What I want is more capable people in 00, more people who understand what's going on, more people who can sustain themselves on their own, more stress and less spoon feeding. This is how got introduced to 00 back then, this is how I learned to live in 00 and this is how everyone should live in 00.

I suspect Paikis has a code alt and is looking to increase his "loot drops" from poor innocent helpless haulers by making everyone have to haul or he is manufacturing haulers
guess that's a NO from me..

Typical I suppose...the true agenda is more ganking of people in highsec...mission runners this time. And the way to do it is through a convoluted tag mechanic wasting everyone's time and making missions even more boring than now. If you wan't to gank mission runners go scan them down and gank them. Don't accomplish it by forcing the entire universe to start dragging tags around to get paid for misisons.

No one said that you'd need to bring the tags to High sec. You interpret too much into non-existing text. Besides, considering the sheer number of CFC and 00 people in general that I see in High sec, you don't really seem to have a problem with staying in High sec to begin with.

so where i get these tag into isk i doubt that the guristas pay me for killing their friends, so alternative is low/highsec. And i´m honest i went to 0.0 space to get PVP, the ratting is an good income for me no doubt, but i need that to buy new ships and fancy things to play.

I don´t like to shoot rats at all but i have to finanze my ships so i can have fun.

And by the way that a "Incursion" takes place in a highsecsytem without any intervention of the fraktion and/or the concord is also not really logical.

As stated numerous times, you could turn in these tags in Low sec stations just as fine as in High sec stations; you could also just sell them to someone in your alliance who then takes care of the turning-in part. Nothing really would change with the "good income for [you]" part, it would just be a different method of getting your money, which involves either a change in attitude towards playing or more effort from the individual. I am perfectly fine with both.

If you only wanted to do PVP, you'd PLEX your account and expenditures and don't waste time hunting NPCs.

That Incursions take place without any faction or Concord intervention is thanks to your power block (and others) , who are lobbying for as little NPC intervention as possible in the and as well as CCP's game design choices to provide the players with farming and grinding grounds.

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Overcomplicationg a system which doesn't need it. usually 1/3 to 1/2 of the income is lot and slavage, pilots not bothering is their own fault.

And this invites even more griefing via intruders. Many more blinky Pirate AS' and HACs looting mission areas and such from players unable to defend them.

Eh I like having the choice to loot and not to loot
I think ninjaing might be tackled better by allowing owned wrecks to be tractored or maybe keep it unchanged and create a t2 noctis that has ridiculous salvage range instead of tractor range.

There is already enough value being dropped, just not an easy way to take it if you don't own the wrecks. Maybe scan mtus instead?

You call it griefing, I call it content. Welcome to EVE, where your mission space is just space, and it isn't yours.