EVE General Discussion

So let me tell you a story.

I am in Faction warfare in lowsec. And today I log in to see that there 1 neutral and 1 war target plexing in my system. The war target is in a bomber,. So I get a ship and go after him. I land inside the plex that he is in and he runs away. But as soon he is warping away. But as soon as he warps away a new player has jumped in to system I check d-SCAN and I see a a Garmur and now there is tengu on d-scan. So I know whats coming a dock back up. I think to myself,. What can I do to combat this new threat.

So I have a think and from my PVP experience I know that Garmur are almost always kite fit. Get a scram on them and they are dead., So I fit up a sensor booster on to my ship and also a signal amp, That should let me lock and scram the Garmur when he lands inside the plex with me. This ship I was using is a Heretic. Its a t2 Destroyer, Has great damage projection and good tank. So anyway., Where did I go wrong?

As this is what happened.

I Am in the plex waiting at zero on the landing spot. I have my Sensor Booster PRE over heated ready for when he lands,. In comes the Garmur then I just nothing,. I turn on my OVER HEATED sensor booster and approach him with my MWD on, I lock the Garmur, But my scram does not land. The Garmur is already 20km away and getting more distance, So I can't cram him now, He is too fast, I align out and try to boomerang out of his point range,. Nope, That not working. And all the time I am firing my misses and not one of them is hitting him, NOT ONE. He is now going 7000Km speed around my ship at a distance of 38km. So now I all I can do is just wait to lose my ship.

I know why this did not work. He had a t3 TENGU BOOSTER. That was the neutral that was in system when I 1st logged in.

So I am wondering, What can I do to combat this? Now before anybody says, Get your own links. Now that does not help. As links would not help me lock this ship or scram at 20km when my ship got lock on his. Getting friends to come and help might be an answer, But everybody I know that does PVP are not interested in chasing a t1 frig that has links. As they all know it is not worth the time or effort because they can do no better that me at catching it.

Here is the lost mail so that you can all giggle at me.

{{Snip. Posting killmails is not allowed. -- ISD LackOfFaith}}


So at this point., I am stuck. They are now going to plex the system that I live in with 1 faction warfare player., And there is no way I can stop them at all,. No body that lives around the system that I live in is interested in combating them as they can't be bothered to chase a bomber that can hide. And nobody in interested in trying to kill a linked Garmur. As they know it is not worth there time. The only real options I have are STAY DOCKED. Or Leave and go back to hisec.

This is all becasue they have a t3 off grid booster that I can not engage. And they have a ship that I can not hit. It don't matter what ship I can bring,. Nothing can hit a speed tanking frig that can go upto 12000km.

The end result is I have lost my home in lowsec to 1 player who happens to have a t3 booster tengu.

So what would you do to combat this?

Hire mercs to ruin this person's day, then go about your business.

Not only posting here but also popping into twitter?

Bring friends next time? He had one.

Yes, off-grid boosting sucks majorly. It may or may not get changed in the future - I have no references to CCP from which to draw any conclusion.

However, do you really think the situation would have been any different if his booster were on-grid?

It's still you versus two of them - one of which you cannot catch, and the other would probably be tanked enough to endure the assault of even an interdictor.

The end result would still be the same, and the solution would still be the same - bring some friends.

That is a very good point, Adn the best way I can address it is, If the tengu was to be on grid (or any booster for that matter) Then my friends would be interested to come and help. Why? Because it's a ship that can be tackled by me and I would be able to hold it long enough for friends to come and kill it. Nobody wants to come and try and chase a ship that nobody can catch,.

The 2nd point is, If Links had to be on grid, Then there is no way the Tengu can come and boost inside a "SMALL" Faction warfare plex. They can not enter.

So yes I do believe that if LINKS had to be on grid, Then the fight would be very different. In fact I doutb there would have been a fight as the Garmur would never have come into the plex to start with.


I am just sitting here thinking what can I fly to kill this thing. And there is nothing I can fly that could kill it., I have 61SP and not one ship or weapon system I have good skills for could kill this, It's so bloody frustrating.

I know you all say "Bring friends". But nobody will come,. They don't want to play a game of chase the unmatchable frig. In fact bringing friend only inflates the ego of the Garmur pilot as he knows he can out run them all and kill them and me as he does it.

probe his booster out while he is busy with his garmur.

Step 1: fit a brick-tanked bait destroyer that can pretty much perma-tank 100dps garmur
Step 2: wait for garmur
Step 3: once garmur engages, combat probe the tengu. Should take you ~10 seconds.
Step 4: Fleet-warp your friends that just enetered system on top of the booster tengu.

This assumes that the booster is not in a deathstar pos or on station of course, but rather in a safe.

nobody ganker has nothing to add because doesnt know anything. But screw it, lets ****-post anyways, am i rite?

then pack up and move. or adapt. You asked for advice, that's mine. Get new friends, hire mercs, get an alt to probe the tengu and have friends warp on it. Or research Fits for the Garmur and then find counters. Every fit has a counter, even a bossted one. Or move.

exactly, if he's fit to boost hes not gonna be very strong in killing you, and the probes might make him cloak. a cloaked ship has no boost. This is what an alt is for.

Adapt you say? How so? I Fitted the right way already combat that ship. Did not work due to him having LINKS.

Get new friends? Ok, you want to come and kill this frig with me?


Move on. Yeh. Seems that the only way to go. But how sad is that,. I am getting pushed out of my home system by one player. How is that a cool fun thing?