Crime & Punishment

TVP are being douches by popping moms. But it is a legit action. They can do that.

ITT we learn: Incursion runners are whiny entitled manchildren and therefore the very best trolling target.
My alt is going into an incursion runner corp, shouldn't be too hard to troll them into disbanding.

If ISN`s plan was to make the make the majority of incursion pilots to think of tvp as idiots then really it was a perfect plan .

Seriously does tvp expect the rest of the incursion community to explode in moral outrage against ISN ? , and if so do what ?

They do not have the support of the community , in fact if you speak to pilots who fly with them they have very little support from their own `members` ( of course these same members if asked by tvp leadership will say they support them ).

I know that their actions have already caused several players who relied on their incursion income to plex their accounts to leave eve .

Greetings All,

I thought I would shed some light on some of this as most people have this correct = Tears + Stupid (maybe option E?)... this event (?) basically is all about a few people slapping each other (Slap Fight) over personal ego issues and mutual loathing (nothing like personal loathing to motive folks to create content).

The "Official Line" you can get from the various groups, sip of the CoolAid provided, and enjoy with a bit of a laugh... and yes Incursion runners are "farmers" not fighters; so this could take months, years, decades, extend into the next CCP game, be placed on tomb stones, and finally left as an unfinished bad blood between ethic groups that could spark major territorial warfare far into the future of humanity... so hey never ending content.

Now, the real deal is this... TVP = close incursions because (1) faulty game mechanics that allow it, and (2) because they can, and if can, why not? - so does. End of story.

Motivation: Mutual Hatred in leadership = annoyance to the masses, e.g. nothing new to human behavior.

What to do:
1. Ignore, because not involved and have other EVE life, or even a life.
2. Watch, enjoy, popcorn.
3. Participation, because that bored, or interested, or passion, or paid to participate and will wash off later afterwards.
(this has several sub groups)
- trolling
- crying
- and the every popular, trolling while crying, or the inverse of... must include "broh", and "come at me" to do correctly.

GANKING:
Ok, this is rather a pointless endeavor for trying to solve anything, so if you go into it to think this will be effectual or even worth the time in a positive way, forget it, it's not and it won't be - HS incursion ganking has been tired and failed, it's not possible to really get in any good fights, much like trying to kick a tortoise.

But, there is a bright side, If you have a sense of humor and wish to just have some fun with it:

1. Someone could (and has) stolen the loot can form the mother ship site apparently - that was creative and funny, and shooting it might be just as fun...
2. you could bump logi with MWD ships off grid in fleets and see what that does... kind of funny if they go flying 100000kms off - so much for reps.
3. you could fit up a ships and contest incursions fleets and just take there payouts, but this would mean bring a runner...
4. you could shoot the ore can or ore running in Vanguard sites... but no one is doing that.
5. you could buy up all the faction modules in HS and cause a massive price increase - someone did to this... that was funny...
6. ... or you could do whatever you like that works for you... and maybe that would be fun.

What this really comes down to is this: Content, provided for everyone, and to be enjoyed on every level in any way you like, I am, it's been fun so far... and note, to the TVP people... my nado, that has been trolling you, has no online modules... so while it was fun chasing you all over, I couldn't have shot you.... but it was a fun three hours... sorry you docked up also...

True it is, closing them and resetting the timers and all that, but this case shows it's open to abuse and use as a community grief tool, which is fine with me, but it does seem to break the whole idea.

The logical extension of this is:

3-4 motivated persons, with ISBoxer fleets can and at some point will shut down the whole incursion thing as a troll on the whole thing, it would not be hard, and in fact it's being done manually by TVP, and was being done by DIN... it's rather a "nuclear" option on the field of grief trolling, so I totally support someone with the means to take to it to this level.

For a Community to survive now, the stakes just got higher... you need a:

CORE ISBoxer MOM Site popping option, and a influence grinder option... speed grind, then immediately pop... and re do this.

Also, you need the base logistics at each constellation, which isn't as hard as it might sound, given that this is just a booster ship, and a few cans of ammo and all, the amount of stuff can be streamlined.

and boxer fleets can make billions in an hour for people willing to setup the whole thing, much like boxer miners do it, but the pay outs are much better.

There are two ways CCP could fix this issue, not sure on the over all effect, but two things would stop it flat

1. make influence 100x or 1000x or more time to grind it down.
2. make it so that the mom doesn't show up until the end of incursions.
-also- (the fun option)...
Turn Concord off in the actual Site, and let nature take it's course... as in the old days... "We would pop each other's logi, and the last logi standing, that fleet wins the site... and scoop the loot as well... might be very interesting!)

So I just have to ask...

Why not wardec them?

just because certain things happen in eve is no reason not to retaliate when those certain things happen to you.

Refer to the 50 page thread in GD.

No. This thread is in C&P, so explain why nothing is exploding....