Wormholes

Actually, yeah - probably. I'll talk to Corbexx

It should use the same cooldowns that clone jumping uses, since it's functionally the same except when you're going from one side of the galaxy to the other. I can understand CCP wanting us to make strategic choices, and choice of clones is such a choice.

It should also require physical transportation of any clones to be used. You take them out of their hisec station where they originate, put them in a hauler, schlep them into the hole, and install them into the Rorq or POS module. You could also take them back into hisec from W-space in the same manner, or even from hisec to hisec if you really wanted.

Clones die and leave corpses when hauler, or Rorq, or POS module are destroyed. Would be nice if they either left killmails for each stored corpse or listed all the implants destroyed on the parent killmail.

Risk should be obvious: you might not lose your 4 bil clone in frigate combat, but if they catch you hauling it or others like it, or if they destroy that POS mod, it still becomes frozen biomass.

I notice that the discussion always bogs down by using an extension of the original mechanic.
how about a lightly sleeper defended data site, where one could swap IMPLANTS. NOT clones.

Disadvantage, you have to carry your extra set of implants to it, and your expensive ones back after unfitting.

This gets expensive stuff into space, but can be managed by astute players.
Shiny killmails for those hunting the careless.

fits very nicely with the whole ethos of wormholes.

and NO-ONE could complain that swapping implants is too easy and risk free when implemented like this.

lore wise the sleepers have the technology. (possibly)

Not arbitrary... I mean, yeah you could make it a POS array. But it would end there, barring an eviction or negligence. That's mostly boring.

Would be better if this had to be done outside the POS shield in one form or another... I.e. for the privilege of swapping clones you need to put some assets at immediate risk. And then balance that around potentially billion isk clones going into this swapping device.

I like epi's idea, but there are two issues. First, implants should be stuck in your head until you die. So I think lore-wise it wouldn't make sense if now all of the sudden you can take them out in exchange for another set. So I would say we would have to relate this still to extra clones like JC's but without the jumping bit. Second problem is site access. The swapping service would be subject to the randomness of the particular site being available. That would hamper its utility.

Obviously I like my idea, because it would make clone swapping available 24/7, but it would require leaving your home system and exposing assets to do it. So even a group like NoHo or LH could get caught by a smaller gang roaming through. And reinforcements from the home system would be limited by the static connection. Naturally, all these groups are skilled at scouting and will easily find an empty static for this and a defense fleet on standby, but if they make any mistakes or get lazy then we have a very nice conflict-driver on our hands.

Small groups can also do the same thing but could attempt a very stealthy swap that nobody will see - using an outermost planet or a deep safe that's out of dscan range. Would be good stuff for everyone if things like time-at-risk are well-balanced.

Get out.

1st year developers are thought Don't do it just because you can.

Different is not by default good. Get that **** out of you head before you go any further.

Further to this the idea of FRIGATE holes not being collapsable is directly against the concept of wormholes.

I.e: we do not have persistent gates in wh space.