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Getting Free Gank Kills Courtesy The CODE. Alliance

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#281 - 2014-08-26 23:04:55 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
I guess it is always up to the Anti-Ganker to make certain that the Ganker has new methods to attack by...how much more epic fail do you have to be to look up to the Anti-Ganker for your tactics?

EPIC.

1.Basically you fit a Micro Jump Drive and three Warp Accelerators to your Battleship.
2.Have a super faster interceptor burn out to 130 km away from the target.
3.Warp your BS fleet to the interceptor and then align to the closest ship that is near the target.
4.12 seconds later you are on target and ready to attack.

EPIC....so EPIC.

But don't tell anyone that an Anti-Ganker had to tell you this idea.


What you have presented is basically what CODE already does, except without wasting expensive battleship hulls and relying on MJDs. They rally at a point 150km+ from their target so instead of having to use a MJD, they can just warp to their target directly.

And before you go thinking that using battleships is a good idea for suicide ganks, let me remind you, again, why it isn't:

Bronson Hughes wrote:

1. Lower scan resolution = longer lock time = less time spent doing DPS.
2. Longer align time = more difficulty in positioning the gank fleet without getting caught by Faction Police NPCs.
3. The extra durability afforded by a battleship hull is wasted when you've got a mountain of CONCORD EWar piled on you. Sure, you live longer, but you aren't applying damage for much of it.
4. Cost. 2-3 gank Catalysts can put out the same DPS as a gank Megathron for a fraction of the cost.
5. Training. A rookie can hop into a gank Catalyst and fit it well in a month or two. Doing the same for a battleship would take considerably longer.
6. Efficiency. I doubt that CODE. gives a rat's behind about killboard efficiency, but they'd probably prefer to not leave more valuable loot/salvage on the field than absolutely necessary.

How exactly are battleships a better choice for CODE.? And how would using them have saved them more ISK? I'm really at a loss here.

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#282 - 2014-09-11 23:33:26 UTC
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.

The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."

"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#283 - 2014-09-12 00:22:44 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.

The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."

"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."


Still here and still enforcing the Code. Cool story though Dryson.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#284 - 2014-09-12 07:02:25 UTC
lol

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#285 - 2014-09-12 13:26:07 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

Unless you or a member of your High Protectorate work for CCP, you shouldn't be taking any credit for an player bans. Players get banned because of what they do, not because of what others do. The credit for the ban lies entirely with them.

Now, of course, if you somehow enticed them into performing some sort of bannable offense and reported that to CCP, that would be something you could take credit for. Of course, that is quite possibly a bannable offense in and of itself, so you may want to be careful what you take credit for....

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DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#286 - 2014-09-13 21:58:44 UTC
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?

DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#287 - 2014-09-13 22:01:46 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

Unless you or a member of your High Protectorate work for CCP, you shouldn't be taking any credit for an player bans. Players get banned because of what they do, not because of what others do. The credit for the ban lies entirely with them.

Now, of course, if you somehow enticed them into performing some sort of bannable offense and reported that to CCP, that would be something you could take credit for. Of course, that is quite possibly a bannable offense in and of itself, so you may want to be careful what you take credit for....


You are reading into something that you want to believe to make your reality more creditable. Not once did I mention taking credit for the members of CODE. being banned because if I would have taken credit then that would mean that I would have purposely incited those who were effected by CODE. into the situation with CODE. where CODE. was banned because of said actions towards those in question. Of which I would never want to put someone through a situation where they would have to talk to a CODE. Alliance member ever.

Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#288 - 2014-09-15 03:13:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
dp

Hey guys.

Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#289 - 2014-09-15 03:14:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Steppa Musana
I'm not sure if this is the best thread or the worst thread.
Either way, subscribed.

DrysonBennington wrote:
Mining Tactic

If your looking to increase your mining output and reduce your station transfer time try using a Mobile Tractor Beam Depot. Deploy the MTBD and then jettison your ore when your ore hold is full. The MTBD will tractor and store the ore for pick up later on.

The MTU will not tractor other miners jet cans but will tractor in all abandoned wrecks.

Using an MTU might also keep CODE. from attacking your barge or orca directly.

Dear miners,
Don't do this.

Sincerely,
Logic

Hey guys.

Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#290 - 2014-09-15 04:25:47 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?


Um. Sure. Why not.
You heard it here first, if you are having computer difficulties it isn't cyber criminals, it's Code. Doesn't matter if you play Eve or not.
Keep it coming Dryson, your wild theories make for entertaining reading. Occasionally. Someone trying to read this whole thread to catch up might suffer a brain aneurism though.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#291 - 2014-09-15 11:26:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Bronson Hughes
DrysonBennington wrote:
You are reading into something that you want to believe to make your reality more creditable. Not once did I mention taking credit for the members of CODE. being banned because if I would have taken credit then that would mean that I would have purposely incited those who were effected by CODE. into the situation with CODE. where CODE. was banned because of said actions towards those in question. Of which I would never want to put someone through a situation where they would have to talk to a CODE. Alliance member ever.


Given the facts that I don't go around proposing tactics that are verifiably unsound from a game mechanics standpoint, don't pass judgement on people I don't know, and don't level completely outlandish personal attacks against other players (or anyone really), I'd say that my grasp on reality is pretty solid. Can you say the same?


DrysonBennington wrote:
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.

The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."

"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."

I thought my read of your little piece of fiction (which, incidentally, I thought was rather well composed) was fairly accurate. High Protectorate Rangers (of which your bio clearly states you are the leader of) making sure the dead stay dead? Either you're claiming credit for the dead (which anyone familiar with the situation can surmise are CODE. members), or you're announcing that High Protectorate members are fond of spending time around corpses that other people have killed. (EDIT: Not that this is a bad thing. To each their own.)

I won't even consider the possibility that you're actually threatening to kill players and "hang 'em high" because that would make you a sociopathic bully, and we all know that only CODE. members are that, right?

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Rabe Raptor
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#292 - 2014-09-15 12:19:04 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?



Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents.

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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#293 - 2014-09-15 13:11:56 UTC
Rabe Raptor wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?



Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents.

Wait, so by the transitive property of tinfoilhattery, if CODE. are undercover FBI agents and they are all Goon alts...Goons are all FBI agents?

No wonder everyone hates them....

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Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#294 - 2014-09-22 11:40:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Oh, Dryson is still working on his insane plans of fighting CODE. Might as well recruit a lot of miners, Orca pilots, freighter pilots, blingy mission runners and wardec CODE then hunt the cats - with same efficiency.

Dryson, I've already told you and will tell it again — you barely can help those who don't want to help themselves. Or, if you like it more, "God helps those who help themselves". Take your pick.
CODE may be a bunch of bad guys, but you know? They are organized and determined, things that their average victim won't have in any observable future. There are a lot of simple rules written with digital blood about being relatively safe. There is no point in trying to invent anything new, it just will be another instruction without enforcement i.e. dead and useless instruction. As long as gank Cat will stay at 13 mil price tag And vexor on 24, there WILL BE casualties. And calling people under your flag? Sometimes ignorance is a lifesaver, most of them will end up being suicide gankers just because of being sick from stupidity of their wards.

In the meantime, you probably should get to know Gevlon Goblin. He is the man with noble. big goal too. Same as you, pretty impossible to achieve and using strange ways to do it, but hey, the journey is the reward, ya?
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#295 - 2014-09-22 14:55:25 UTC
DrysonBennington wrote:
According to a well know source many a CODE Member have been banned....

...hang em high in the street for all the people to see.

The sound of the creaking of wooden planks echoes through the saloon. Sunlight playfully dancing on the surface of a shot of Whiskey before it consumed in a single gulp and turned upside down on the table strewn with cards and Aurum. The Rangers of the High Protectorate making certain that the dead stayed dead this time moved through the mass of bodies in the saloon. A gentle kick here with the tip of a boot, another kneeling before another corpse checking for a pulse. A ringing sound of spurs and a thump could be heard coming down the stairs as another Ranger dragged the lifeless corpse of another one of the outlanders and with a final burst of air legged tossed the corpse onto a pile. A pull of air and a chest of justice and victory moved through the Ranger as he snapped the hammer on his Blaster closed and re holstered it. The leather gladly excepting the cold wrought Tritanium frame. The sun was setting low as it began to cast long shadows on the days events as the High Protectorate mounted up. A small dust cloud rose in the wake of the posses departure as the sound of clanging tags clinkered throughout the town. One Ranger remained behind felt obliged to not leave things unsettled and tossed a 1000 Aurum Token into the saloon where it spun in an unnatural manner casting rays of light in all directions. "Sure we'll pay your fare for Charon the boatman. That's the least we could do."..."Ma'am you ought to be getting along home to your husband now. This isn't a place for married folk."......"Come on Sorrow's Promise....another day awaits us somewhere else in this high plane named New Eden."

"Until the next group decides to prey upon the weak....We'll be there for ya...in the wind and in every window."


It truly was a ballet of death

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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#296 - 2014-09-22 14:57:17 UTC
Rabe Raptor wrote:
DrysonBennington wrote:
I wonder if the CODE. Alliance is part of the FBI., Alliance trying to lock people out of their PC's where they have to pay a ransom to get their PC back?



Confirmed. CODE. is undercover FBI agents.



Silence! You are going to ruin my undercover operation! You'll blow this new identity I have.

The Artist Formerly Known As AC. 

The terminal end of the digestive system. 

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Tyyler DURden
Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co.
#297 - 2014-09-23 01:56:21 UTC
Dryson threads are priceless.

Tyyler DURden says "use soap"

Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#298 - 2014-09-23 09:44:10 UTC


My serious reply to OP.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#299 - 2014-09-24 00:42:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
While I sympathize with OP's objectives, I don't think getting on CONCORD killmails is useful.

The best response to CODE is -

1: Ignore them in game when they gank. They do it for tears, and if there are no tears they get bored and go home.

2: Isolate any troubling tactics such as bumping, and the lack of consequences for -10 sec status. Raise these on the forums and militate for positive change.

3: Call out and report any inappropriate behavior, especially EULA violations. While the rancid comments come from many gankers, the CODE folks seem particularly focused on baiting and angering people.

4: Always remain calm and remember that it's just a computer game. Don't get riled up by CODE gankers, and just focus on getting CCP to further improve the game.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#300 - 2014-09-24 02:16:39 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
While I sympathize with OP's objectives, I don't think getting on CONCORD killmails is useful.

The best response to CODE is -

1: Ignore them in game when they gank. They do it for tears, and if there are no tears they get bored and go home.

2: Isolate any troubling tactics such as bumping, and the lack of consequences for -10 sec status. Raise these on the forums and militate for positive change.

3: Call out and report any inappropriate behavior, especially EULA violations. While the rancid comments come from many gankers, the CODE folks seem particularly focused on baiting and angering people.

4: Always remain calm and remember that it's just a computer game. Don't get riled up by CODE gankers, and just focus on getting CCP to further improve the game.

#1 and #4 are spot on. EvE is a game and some people seem to take it way too seriously.

#2 is somewhat pointless as CCP has already stated on numerous occasions that bumping and operating in hisec with -10 sec status is within desired game mechanics. But, hey, the forums are here for a reason, make your voice heard.

#3 is a tossup. Obviously report EULA violations, but in my experience the anti-gankers tend to have far more rancid comments than CODE. agents ever do. Heck, I've been deemed an enemy of the anti-ganking movement just for trying to help them by pointing out where their tactics were lacking. CODE. on the other hand has been very welcoming of me (even though I'm not a ganker), and everyone else who's interested/curious in what they do. Go figure.

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