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See your Dscan, Chatbox, or Overview on tablets?
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Sentry 10
Escape Velocity
#1 - 2014-09-15 08:54:04 UTC
Eve is a game with A LOT of functions windows. A typical set up requires one's Dscan, Overview, local, fleet, etc...and many other windows open just to be able to play the game well, which means a lot of screen real estate is taken up, therefore effecting experience and immersion greatly.

So would it be feasible to have a sort of an EVE online app on your tablet/smartphone where one could display a window of their choice? Imagine using a tablet as your Dscan, or local, or drone bay...

This would also be beneficial to everyone, from freeing up screen real estate for players with smaller computer monitors, to improving the immersion of the game as one could turn off their HUD while still being able to maintain a watchful eye on local.

Discuss
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#2 - 2014-09-15 14:32:38 UTC
Same basic idea but how about a second dispkay? Cheap and most modern computers can easily handle a second display.
From a technical standpoint it might be easier for CCP to accomplish this than it would for the WiFi link to another device, especially if that other device had controls on it that the client needed to keep track of.
Marcus Tarrow
Blades of Liberty
#3 - 2014-09-15 23:17:50 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Same basic idea but how about a second dispkay? Cheap and most modern computers can easily handle a second display.


You can already pretty much do this by creating a custom resolution in your graphics driver settings. Eve takes its resolution list from your graphics driver and will draw a borderless window whatever size it's told it can. I set eve to launch on the left hand screen, using a resolution of 3200x1024 (from 1920x1080 panel and the secondary 1280x1024). Covers both screens quite nicely, leaving the taskbar on the main screen visible. Centering the ship etc on the correct display can then all be done in-game.

It's such a trivial thing to actually do that I'm surprised it's not already a feature.

as for the OP - I like the idea. Chat channel probably wouldn't be that hard especially as eve already generates log files for the chat (that and I'm convinced the chat system is a glorified IRC server config). My concern for the other stuff would be that people could put together some hideously complex apps for a tablet if they could feed it data from d-scan, overview, fleet etc.

It's come up before albeit in a simpler form (a prog for monitoring local via the game-generated logfiles, then comparing against an external standings list and sounding an audio alert if certain people entered system). It was fairly divisive at the time and CCP eventually removed that data from the logfiles to prevent it being an issue again (automated parsing of the logfiles not being a breach of the EULA or TOS at the time, don't know if that's still the case). With a decent tablet reading local, overview, fleet and d-scan you could do so much more... and that may be something they'd like to avoid.
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-09-16 00:20:09 UTC
you have a technical issue. At least with apple.


Eve has small patches sometimes 1-2 times a week. Patch resets operating level. Not same operating level, not getting game access till that happens.


Apple app store apps have a delayed release for code verification. Nott sure how others work, I just know apple. Sooo...basically I-devices from apple would never be same operating level (verification is days to like a week or so). ergo no worky will happen quite often....


And ccp can't speed this up. Apple verifies on its own schedule. Even rovio takes their spot in line here. Maybe they get some special treatment....but they are rovio if so. they generate a fair amount of income giving up that small tithe to apple per in game purchase.

And you don't want this bypassed. The things, awful terrible things, I have done in just IOS simulator in xcode playing around (badly)with app development....fugly would be one word for it and you would not want this speedlined straight into a real device. YOu see...I am rare kind of coder, I know I make mistakes. It be the god among mortals coders you have to watch out for. Their code like them is perfect....just ask them they will tell you loud and proud for hours if you let them. It be apple verifiers who you rely on to knock that ego down a notch when their code is not so great lol.

We could say sucks to be an apple user if say galaxy more lenient in this area. However, Apple not exactly a small market share in this area. Not exactly the ease of business decisions made long ago like cutting off beta and backing vhs.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-09-16 01:55:25 UTC
I have two monitors and I'd like to see some split-screen functionality first. However, I like your idea as well. Even on a 24" monitor my window still gets pretty cluttered.
Steppa Musana
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-09-16 03:43:52 UTC
For multi-monitor solutions, since 11 years later CCP still hasn't properly added multi-monitor support:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8660
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Hey guys.
Sentenced 1989
#7 - 2014-09-16 10:01:47 UTC
Sentry 10 wrote:
Eve is a game with A LOT of functions windows. A typical set up requires one's Dscan, Overview, local, fleet, etc...and many other windows open just to be able to play the game well, which means a lot of screen real estate is taken up, therefore effecting experience and immersion greatly.

So would it be feasible to have a sort of an EVE online app on your tablet/smartphone where one could display a window of their choice? Imagine using a tablet as your Dscan, or local, or drone bay...

This would also be beneficial to everyone, from freeing up screen real estate for players with smaller computer monitors, to improving the immersion of the game as one could turn off their HUD while still being able to maintain a watchful eye on local.

Discuss





To complex to do, how would it communicate with EVE, how would you login into it, what happens if one device loses connection, how would you control it? Can I select my target on my phone? Assuming I keep one hand on keyboard (F1-F8) and use one hand for mouse to move my ship, with what am I going to use the phone or tablet? Certain body parts come to my mind, but not all genders are equipped similar.

Not to mention technical complexity, it's hard as it is to maintain EVE over win, linux and mac and you are suggesting to add android, iOs and who knows what more with million different screen sizes and devises.

Idea -> interesting
Feasibility -> none

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